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ConorMcGregorsBeard

Stewart Era Liberal
Jul 22, 2015
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Lol. You are so dumb jones.

So dumb.

Christ mate. You are so dense when you go shopping k. Marts move around you
1) Simmer down. 2) Look up the numbers. The egregious behavior never came to fruition beyond a narrative being pushed by the media. Personally I don't believe that narrative anymore than I believe the one that anyone who voted for Brexit did so because they're racist.
 

ConorMcGregorsBeard

Stewart Era Liberal
Jul 22, 2015
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Go on..

Is it the label that you disagree with or my statement?
The graph itself is intentionally misleading. My opinion of bailouts not withstanding a one time "Fuck we need to help this group out because of a unique situation" is different than something like social services that are budgeted for year over year. It's also ignoring that in some cases money that goes to agriculture is used for public land or wildlife which is something that directly benefits the public.
 

MC Gusto

Freeloading Rusty
Jan 11, 2016
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The graph itself is intentionally misleading. My opinion of bailouts not withstanding a one time "Fuck we need to help this group out because of a unique situation" is different than something like social services that are budgeted for year over year. It's also ignoring that in some cases money that goes to agriculture is used for public land or wildlife which is something that directly benefits the public.
What the fuck are you talking about? What does this have to do with Francis Bellamy (from the post you quoted)?

The pledge of a allegiance was created by a democratic socialist .

Francis Bellamy - Wikipedia
Nice try.
Go on..

Is it the label that you disagree with or my statement?
 

MC Gusto

Freeloading Rusty
Jan 11, 2016
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He was a Chrisitan Socialist, not a Democratic Socialist.
Ok, I will have to take your word on that over the professor of politics (with a PhD) that made this statement:

Throughout American history, some of the nation's most influential activists and thinkers—including leaders of the major movements for social justice—embraced democratic socialism. Among them were labor leader Eugene V. Debs (who ran for president six times on the Socialist Party ticket, garnering more than 900,000 votes—more than 6 percent of the total—in 1912), philosopher and educator John Dewey, Boston clergyman Francis Bellamy (who wrote the original “Pledge of Allegiance” in 1892)
 

ConorMcGregorsBeard

Stewart Era Liberal
Jul 22, 2015
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Dont blame me for your lack of reading comprehension.
Bellamy was a Christian socialist[1] who "championed 'the rights of working people and the equal distribution of economic resources, which he believed was inherent in the teachings of Jesus.'"[8] In 1891, Bellamy was "forced from his Boston pulpit for preaching against the evils of capitalism",[2] and eventually stopped attending church altogether after moving to Florida, reportedly because of the racism he witnessed there.[9] Francis's career as a preacher ended because of his tendency to describe Jesus as a socialist. In the 21st century, Bellamy is considered an early American democratic socialist.
Don't fall for the rebrand.
 

MC Gusto

Freeloading Rusty
Jan 11, 2016
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Don't fall for the rebrand.
Just like you posted: "Bellamy is considered an early American democratic socialist" with a link to the quote I posted from the professor and the original source:

Throughout American history, some of the nation's most influential activists and thinkers—including leaders of the major movements for social justice—embraced democratic socialism. Among them were labor leader Eugene V. Debs (who ran for president six times on the Socialist Party ticket, garnering more than 900,000 votes—more than 6 percent of the total—in 1912), philosopher and educator John Dewey, Boston clergyman Francis Bellamy (who wrote the original “Pledge of Allegiance” in 1892)

Where is the rebrand?

Sometimes you can just admit you fucked up.
 

MC Gusto

Freeloading Rusty
Jan 11, 2016
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Notice the part where he referred to himself as one thing and then later people decided "Nah, he's one of us." ?
Again, the original quote:

Throughout American history, some of the nation's most influential activists and thinkers—including leaders of the major movements for social justice—embraced democratic socialism. Among them were labor leader Eugene V. Debs (who ran for president six times on the Socialist Party ticket, garnering more than 900,000 votes—more than 6 percent of the total—in 1912), philosopher and educator John Dewey, Boston clergyman Francis Bellamy (who wrote the original “Pledge of Allegiance” in 1892)

Peter Dreier
 

ConorMcGregorsBeard

Stewart Era Liberal
Jul 22, 2015
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Again, the original quote:

Throughout American history, some of the nation's most influential activists and thinkers—including leaders of the major movements for social justice—embraced democratic socialism. Among them were labor leader Eugene V. Debs (who ran for president six times on the Socialist Party ticket, garnering more than 900,000 votes—more than 6 percent of the total—in 1912), philosopher and educator John Dewey, Boston clergyman Francis Bellamy (who wrote the original “Pledge of Allegiance” in 1892)

Peter Dreier
Yeah, so when someone is co-opted into a movement 100+ years after they die, that doesn't negate what they considered to be their life's work.
Also, here's a comprehesive guide to notable Democratic Socialists:

Democratic socialism - Wikipedia
 

ConorMcGregorsBeard

Stewart Era Liberal
Jul 22, 2015
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You're directly stating the statement from professor Dreier is bullshit, take that up with him, not me.
or I'm pointing out that screaming "BUT A PROFESSOR" doesn't validate and opinion when all other information disputes it.

Seriously, have you not noticed how many people are being claimed as "democratic socialists" in the last 3 years?
 

MC Gusto

Freeloading Rusty
Jan 11, 2016
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or I'm pointing out that screaming "BUT A PROFESSOR" doesn't validate and opinion when all other information disputes it.

Seriously, have you not noticed how many people are being claimed as "democratic socialists" in the last 3 years?
Ok man, we got the point you're attempting to make. I think.