The Dust Has Settled- It’s Time to be Honest About the Wonderboy/Till Fight

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  1. silentsinger

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    Thanks.

    I'm in a quandary as to who won now. Till got the knockdown but it's all a bit hazy now.
     
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  2. Mishima Zaibatsu

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    In round 4, after rewatching, counting and weighing every shot that landed, I saw it as equal.

    The number of jabs and low round kicks were 100% equal from what I saw and when you factor in power shots:

    Till landed a solid clinch knee after one of WB's failed blitz attempts and an elbow from the clinch position he had that I address below and a left hand that had about as much impact as many of Wonderboys. Till was also landing a few of those low side kicks which were clearly having an effect on Wonderboy's countering and his movement. He said after that he thinks his knee might be a bit jacked up because of them.

    Till pressured the whole fight and he even did what you could say was the only effective grappling the entire fight by clinching with Wonderboy and pushing against the cage in the 4th.

    Wonderboy landed a couple of weak right hands, a solid right hand to the body, a left hook and a body kick.

    It's basically a knee, an elbow and a left hand vs a right to the body, a left hook and a body kick. Those were the most significant strikes from what I saw in the round.
     
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  3. Nuk Soo Kow

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    Not sure if serious.
     
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  4. Inside Job

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    not really..best not to take internet too serious

    I respect him a lot

    but just cause he judges a fight a certain way does not make the gold standard

    Not even sure what his real opinion is on this fight, but IMO he has been off on a few of the things he tweets about lately.

    Big john is a stud, but MMA is big and his opinion is just an opinion...his may be backed by history and experience but that does not mean he can't be wrong or biased

    IF he doesn't value damage or ring control then I will just have to agree to disagree with him.

    BJM a stud...but he is human

    Rules and scoring criteria are so subjective no matter how much they are written to be clear cut...still using 10-9 systems for christ's sake...I don't think anyone "won" the "fight"...but if one guy has to get the nod for fans to be happy then I think Till should get it...his leg damage inflicted on wb and that knockdown were by far the most effective techniques of the fight

    IMHO
     
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  5. Sex Chicken

    Sex Chicken Shrimpin’ Ain’t Easy

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    Kaladin Stormblessed toss a coin to your witcher

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    Corrected. It was accurate. but notHing stood out as humble
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  8. Joemacka

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    BJM just made himself look stupid. Everything he wrote suggests Till won the fight but he is saying Wonderboy should have got the nod.
     
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  9. JJ's pile of blow

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    I thought WB edged him but was a great fight. At least i thought so
     
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    I didnt watch the fight but know Till won after reading certain members scores.
     
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    Wonderboy was the #1 contender at 170, but instead of fighting for the interim belt, he was matched against a guy ranked #8, in that guy's (Till's) hometown, and to add insult to injury, Till misses weight by three pounds. Wonderboy goes ahead with the fight in spite of everything and loses a close decision that many fans outside of Liverpool thought he won (albeit in a less than exciting fashion). It was a longshot that Wonderboy would ever get that third shot at Woodley's belt before, and now? Stephen Thomspon lost more than a fight this past weekend, and at 35 years of age, I can only hope that his contract is almost up so he can go to Bellator and rematch Rory MacDonald.

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    Aside from he came up with the ruleset
     
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    He cant be.
    I laughed when i read it
     
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  14. silentsinger

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    Why are people bent out of shape about this?
    Is it some American thing I’m not getting?
     
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    Germans or Argies? Which is worst?
     
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  18. Sex Chicken

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    I don’t think you think a Brit or an Aussie has ever lost an MMA fight. You are the most biased Homer in the MMA posting business.
     
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  19. Andrewsimar Palhardass

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    What about judging standards is objective?
     
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