The Sound of Violence’s thoughts on “champ champ” bullshit

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  1. No 1 Boolshit Guy

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    Hey ya’ll, most of you guys may have seen me a couple of times last year but I’m one of the co-hosts on The Sound of Violence podcast and I’m finally back on TMMAC after neglecting my log-in info for so long.

    Anyways, I figured I’d share my thoughts about the state of the UFC and their push for “champ champ” super fights and what it means for each division. Hope you enjoy an opinion piece I wrote two weeks ago!

    Articles — The Sound of Violence Podcast
     
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  2. Robbie Hart

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    Champ champ sounds really ghey.....not blaming op blaming any fighter who uses that term
     
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  3. Liam Neeson's Cosh

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    No 'champ champ' has ever actually existed anyway. The winning or losing of the 2nd belt has always marked the exact point where they leave one division. Conor never fought at 145 again, Cormier never fought at 205 again, Nunes says she will never fight at 145 again.

    A 'double champ' (still sounds less gay than 'champ champ') would be what Bellator is claiming, but it will likely go as above, that they will do with Bader.
     
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    Gsp was a camp champ
     
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    Champ champ makes the belt championships even stupider and more worthless than they already are...
     
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  6. HEATH VON DOOM

    HEATH VON DOOM Remember the 5th of November

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    Stop trying to diminish what Conor accomplished.
     
  7. The Sound of Violence

    The Sound of Violence Host of a podcast about mma podcasts

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    For anyone not trying to read it on our janky ass website, which I swear I'll redesign one of these days:

    The UFC in 2019 is branding itself as being in a new era. An era where current title-holders forgo waiting contenders to instead to shed their skin or fatten themselves at an opportunity to be called ‘champ champ.’

    Last weekend in Brooklyn, current bantamweight champion T.J. Dillashaw attempted to become the fourth ever champion to simultaneously hold a belt in two different weight classes. Though his confidence and preparation led him to successfully make championship weight, his game plan hit a wall as Henry Cejudo finished Dillashaw via strikes, thirty-two seconds into the first round to retain his flyweight belt.

    So one might be thinking, what’s the hype about champions vying to be seen as a belt collector? We’ve witnessed Conor McGregor, Daniel Cormier, and Amanda Nunes become the only simultaneous champions the organization has seen. Regardless if it were for money, glory or whatever reason these fighters had, the one thing the double champs had in common was winning a belt after going up a weight class.

    Is this to say Dillashaw’s failure to meet expectations is because of the weight cut affecting his body, possibly? However, I believe it’s a combination of swimming in unfamiliar waters in that fans and critics expected a performance from Dillashaw based on his past accolades. Ultimately, we were met with a talented fighter whose unfamiliarity and untested form at a new weight class, led to a disappointing showing.

    While Dillashaw’s loss won’t discredit an incredible performance from Cejudo, it does form questions surrounding concern for extreme weight-cutting as well as creating a sense of doubt for any current champions to make a run at an additional belt. Before the flyweight bout between Cejudo and Dillashaw even heard the starting horn ring, Dillashaw had his sights set on making a challenge to featherweight champion Max Holloway.

    Hearing ideas such as Dillashaw dreaming of becoming a triple champ devalues the initial prestige of being a “double champ,” because it puts weight classes on hold in both directions. While Dillashaw has been an active champion at his weight class, the only challengers or champions at bantamweight in the past three years have been T.J. Dillashaw, Cody Garbrandt, Dominick Cruz and Urijah Faber.

    Dana White loves promoting the idea of a ‘super fight’ and the possibility of Dillashaw avenging his loss to Cejudo at bantamweight is counterintuitive. It’s an exciting rematch because we know what to expect from Dillashaw at his weight class however, the fight denies new contenders like Raphael Assuncao and Marlon Moraes an opportunity to fight for the title.

    With the flyweight division hanging in the balance of White’s short tempered expectations of what can be a brand, other weight classes such as the women’s featherweight division have essentially been comprised of a small number of fighters who are unwilling to commit to staying at the weight and a new champion in Amanda Nunes who already plans on vacating her featherweight belt because she can’t fit into her favorite pair of jeans anymore.

    The UFC already has a circus looming with the Nevada State Athletic Commission suspending and fining company darlings Khabib Nurmagomedov and Conor McGregor for their roles in a postfight brawl at UFC 229.

    Regardless of what punishment will be handed to each fighter, this drama as well the controversy surrounding Jon Jones’s positive test results for a steroid metabolite, is a speed bump for the UFC in the first month of the year.

    Super fights aren’t good for the sport right now but, they’re what’s keeping a loose band-aid from peeling off a wound White is tired of patching up.
     
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  8. The Sound of Violence

    The Sound of Violence Host of a podcast about mma podcasts

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    Agreed basically just butchers divisions for theoretical ppv buys.
     
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    Just use Wix. You can make your shitty site look awesome, even if you are a complete retard like me!

    I've used it a few times and it's cheap and easy.
     
  10. The Sound of Violence

    The Sound of Violence Host of a podcast about mma podcasts

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    Word Wix is solid. Were on squarespace and it's pretty damn easy my lazy ass just needs to actually sit down and make it happen
     
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  11. Kneeblock

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    The answer is money. The fighters want more and increasingly this is the only way they can convince the promoter to give it to them absent being a circus act.
     
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    Wouldn't claiming Conor was the 1st "champ champ" (gay as fuck title) diminish the accomplishments of previous fighters who have done the same, but were not allowed be labeled as such?
     
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  13. HEATH VON DOOM

    HEATH VON DOOM Remember the 5th of November

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    Labels are for millenials so no. BJ got plenty of props without some silly name.
     
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  14. Rambo John J

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    Prodigy?
    I liked BJ's nickname fyi

    this champ champ shit is lame as hell...since the days of jesus it was called two division champ
     
  15. HEATH VON DOOM

    HEATH VON DOOM Remember the 5th of November

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    Its no different than the dumbass potheads naming their dope. Its fucking dope, get over yourselves and your stupid names. Gorilla glue makes it sound about as intelligent as the local 13 year old huffing paint in his garage.
     
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    Ok, I will play along

    Is it at least OK to label it by THC and CBD percentage so people know what they are getting into?

    I know you probably have some crazy diverse strains named after your favorite constellations and are messing around but humor me...Can percentage be labeled?
    Can effect and/or terpenes be listed?
     
  17. HEATH VON DOOM

    HEATH VON DOOM Remember the 5th of November

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    Its just fucking dope. The Mexicans did just fine until the hipsters took it over. And before you lecture me on how much better it is you smoked that Brown shit for 30 years talking about how good it was before you got duped into paying 5 times more for it.
     
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  18. Rambo John J

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    I love your salt...purest on earth
    FYI I grow my own and use chicken shit from my chickens...probably cost me a few cents a gram
    I will spare you the details of the differences in strains and whatnot

    as far as brick brown mexweed?
    Herb has been grown locally a very long time in this valley(decriminalized in 1972)...Brick weed very rarely was seen and it brought about many deep laughs cause it sucked so bad...only knew one guy who had it and he was a tweaker with a Pig, sugar gliders, 2 300lb mastiffs(scary) and other crazy shit roaming his house
     
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  19. HEATH VON DOOM

    HEATH VON DOOM Remember the 5th of November

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    Cliffs? No way am I reading all that nonsense.
     
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  20. Suicidalforlife

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    So you agree with me then ;)
     
  21. HEATH VON DOOM

    HEATH VON DOOM Remember the 5th of November

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    I could care less what they call people. I think champ champ is stupid but these days they have to label everything.
     
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    It’s just whisky
    Why all the different names?
    And I quit smoking awhile back.


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  24. HEATH VON DOOM

    HEATH VON DOOM Remember the 5th of November

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    Glad you grew up after you turned 16 and stopped smoking dope. It was always obvious because you do splendid work covering the fights. I imagine you wouldnt be as productive if you kept smoking the hippie lettuce.
     
  25. The Sound of Violence

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    Guess I shouldn't bring up my new strain Champ Champ that's a cross of Pink Champagne and Blue Champagne then...
     
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