General this donald trump jr. story just keeps unraveling...

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drjones

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so first there was no meeting, never, ridiculous to even suggest it.

then there was a meeting but it was so inconsequential he didnt even remember it.

then it was just about adoptions.

then there was some mention of dirt on the hillary clinton campaign but it turned out to be nothing.

then he claimed he didnt even know who he was supposed to be meeting with.

then he himself releases an email that shows that he was told before the meeting that what was to be offered at the meeting was coming directly from the russian government because they wanted to help the trump campaign.

ok then.

?????????
 

drjones

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so pretty much at this point trump jr. has admitted openly that he took the meeting because dirt was being offered on the clinton campaign and that he was told before the meeting that the information was coming from the russian government and its purpose was to help the trump campaign.

and yet although he invited kushner and manafort to also attend, he allegedly did not ever mention the meeting to his father or anyone else before or after it took place.

seems legit.
 

KWingJitsu

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So I guess we have moved on from russia hacking the election?
Moved on .... aka the next logical step.
1) Hack DNC & HRC emails
2) Provide them to Don Shithead Jnr.
3) Don Shithead Snr. agrees to remove Obama russian sanctions if he wins.
4) ??? (he 'wins')
5) Profit!!! (Russia profits)
 

HEATH VON DOOM

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Moved on .... aka the next logical step.
1) Hack DNC & HRC emails
2) Provide them to Don Shithead Jnr.
3) Don Shithead Snr. agrees to remove Obama russian sanctions if he wins.
4) ??? (he 'wins')
5) Profit!!! (Russia profits)
Didnt facebook tell me the Don was going to be impeached in 6 months?
 

Gay For Longo

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Jan 22, 2016
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Moved on .... aka the next logical step.
1) Hack DNC & HRC emails
2) Provide them to Don Shithead Jnr.
3) Don Shithead Snr. agrees to remove Obama russian sanctions if he wins.
4) ??? (he 'wins')
5) Profit!!! (Russia profits)
Source?
 

KWingJitsu

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Besides what you already know?
Sure. Here's a little tidbit:
The guy that set up the meeting with Trump Jr and the Kremlin Lawyer is the dad of Emin Agalarov, a shitty Russian/Azeri pop-star. So, when the imminent denials from the White House start coming in that Trump Sr has "no connection" to these people, well..........here he is himself appearing in Emin's shitty music video:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuZUNjFsgS8
 

Gay For Longo

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Jan 22, 2016
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Besides what you already know?
Sure. Here's a little tidbit:
The guy that set up the meeting with Trump Jr and the Kremlin Lawyer is the dad of Emin Agalarov, a shitty Russian/Azeri pop-star. So, when the imminent denials from the White House start coming in that Trump Sr has "no connection" to these people, well..........here he is himself appearing in Emin's shitty music video:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuZUNjFsgS8
I made it 43 seconds lol
 

jason73

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Now, amid the cacophony of claims that the Trump campaign committed the criminal offense of “collusion” with the Russians, no one has managed to point to a statute that makes colluding with a foreign government in a political campaign a crime. Why? Because it cannot be found anywhere in America’s criminal codes.

As explained in an earlier column, “collusion” is a loaded word conjuring all manner of incriminating behavior. Yet, it exists only in anti-trust laws which forbid price fixing and other anti-competitive activities under Section 1 of the Sherman Antitrust Act.

Collusion has nothing whatsoever to do with elections and political campaigns. Of course, that inconvenient fact has not stopped politicians, pundits and journalists from either misunderstanding the concept and/or misconstruing its application to the Trump-Russia hysteria.

It also renders special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation meaningless. He is tasked with finding a crime that does not exist in the law. It is a legal impossibility.

The only conceivable crime tangentially related to collusion is found at 18 USC 371, entitled “Conspiracy to Defraud the United States.” It makes it a felony for two or more persons to enter into an agreement to interfere or obstruct a lawful function of the government. An election would be a lawful government function. However, it must be done by “deceitful or dishonest means.”

So let’s suppose, for the sake of argument, that the Russian lawyer provided information damaging to the Clinton campaign and the Trump campaign then acted on the material by disseminating it to the public. How is that deceitful or dishonest? It is not.

But this is not what happened, as best we know. According to Trump Jr., the lawyer offered no information at all. Indeed, the lawyer insists the subject of the campaign was never broached.

Let’s play another “what if.” What if the Russian lawyer handed Trump Jr. a file and said, “here is information which we hacked from the DNC and the Clinton campaign?” If the president’s son accepted the file, then he could be accused of knowingly receiving stolen property. But again, there is no evidence this ever happened.

It is worth remembering that the hacked information was not made public by Wikileaks until after the June 9th meeting. Months later, in October, the U.S. government officially acknowledged Russian interference in the election.

There is one final law to be considered. Under the Federal Election Campaign Act, soliciting and/or receiving foreign donations is prohibited (11 CFR 110.20). This includes “money or other thing of value.” Is information, by itself, a “thing of value?” One could attempt to make that argument, but it has never been interpreted that way.

Moreover, campaign election laws are rarely the subject of criminal prosecutions. The vast majority of cases are civil violations resulting in fines. But again, both Trump Jr. and the Russian lawyer agree that no information related to the presidential campaign was conveyed. If true, this statute is inapplicable.

As much as President Trump’s opponents may wish it to be, it is not a crime to meet with a Russian. Nor is it a crime to meet with a Russian lawyer or government official. Even gathering information from a foreign source is permissible. Unwise and ill-advised, yes. Illegal, no.

Until such time as Congress decides to pass a bill – and the president signs it into law – criminalizing “collusion” with a foreign government in an American political campaign … no law has been broken here.

Gregg Jarrett: Donald Trump Jr. has broken no law
 

TalkingLeaf

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Trump jrs behavior being illegal or not is less of an issue than the blatant lying by him, kushner, and manafort is. Kushner has had to amend his security clearance forms twice now. Once you can maybe forgive, twice is a possible felony. Manafort had to retroactively register as a foreign agent for the last two years. They're the ones in real, legal trouble here.

It's not a crime for a politician, or his "team", to lie the electorate either. But we should expect more of people in government, whichever side they are on. Honesty seems hard to come by for those close to the president.

If you excuse poor behavior by one side, don't complain when the other side lies to you.

Hating democrats is fine, and I understand the sentiment, but don't allow your hate to come first over loving your country. Fuck any asshole, regardless of party, that meets with foreign governments to get dirt on a politician. No one should excuse this.
 

Hauler

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So the non-politician is a politician after all. Interdasting.
 
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He also claimed that Kushner and Manafort were not informed of the subject of the meeting and then posted emails showing he had forwarded them the email chain, which described EXPLICITLY what the meeting would be about.

Why would someone lie about something so trivial?

He is clearly hiding something.