Tim Kennedy says PED will get worse before it's get better

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As far as Tim Kennedy is concerned, this is just the tip of the iceberg. "There's a crazy problem," Kennedy told Ariel Helwani on Monday's edition of The MMA Hour. "The inevitable is gonna happen and where somebody is going to get seriously hurt and the person that caused that is gonna test positive and then the sport is ... "

Kennedy, a longtime anti-drug advocate in MMA, didn't have to finish his thought. We all get where he was going -- to a scary place. One Kennedy thinks is inevitable at this point.
 

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He's been saying the PED problem has been an issue for awhile and everyone said he was just a bitch... I think he was more right than anyone gave him credit for. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if he popped.
 
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Thatonedude;n17736 said:
He's been saying the PED problem has been an issue for awhile and everyone said he was just a bitch... I think he was more right than anyone gave him credit for. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if he popped.
he will get grilled if he pops.
 

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Seems accurate. Hopefully he's right too, some more significant guys popping might help scare cheaters away...
 

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Silva and Fitch popping ruined it all for me, Lombard... Not so much
 

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John M;n17755 said:
Seems accurate. Hopefully he's right too, some more significant guys popping might help scare cheaters away...
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I agree with him. I think it will get worse but then get better as guys realize it's not as easy to cheat any more.
 

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he even called out dana and lorenzo on their "lip service" (not relating to ring girls). the guys got balls for sure. i'm glad he stood up and talked about the NAC, and why these tests come back late. i like kennedy and hope he is clean, but that dude has the look that people put with steroids, so he will always be accused.
 

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^^^ There are plenty of natural guys that look like that...especially when they're sucked dry from cutting weight. Not saying whether he is or isn't, but I wouldn't base anything on looks.
 

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I like Tim. He is a legit badass and his criticisms are just. I don't know why people on the UG and other sites bury the guy.


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Rico_Cutler;17885 said:
He better hope he dont ever get surprise tested or he will be the next one to fail.
You think he uses?

He might. Nothing would surprise me. He has been very outspoken about it.


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I'll go on record and say he does not. I think he's just a thick military dude that gets ripped when he cuts 30 pounds. He looks nothing like that picture when he's walking around completely hydrated.
 
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I Wild Each It;n17867 said:
^^^ There are plenty of natural guys that look like that...especially when they're sucked dry from cutting weight. Not saying whether he is or isn't, but I wouldn't base anything on looks.
he looks like a white ubereem in my book, being outspoken against peds doesn't mean anything, plenty examples.
 

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Morpheus1976;n17898 said:
he looks like a white ubereem in my book, being outspoken against peds doesn't mean anything, plenty examples.
He looks like a lot of farm boys that I know around here in Kentucky, if they decided to cut 25-30 pounds of water weight. I'm not buying he's on PED's because some of these other dude's decided to cheat. I would rather the community not lump everyone into this disaster, because although it's a total clusterfuck, I am confident that there are guys in the sport that are clean.
 

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I Wild Each It;17900 said:
He looks like a lot of farm boys that I know around here in Kentucky, if they decided to cut 25-30 pounds of water weight. I'm not buying he's on PED's because some of these other dude's decided to cheat. I would rather the community not lump everyone into this disaster, because although it's a total clusterfuck, I am confident that there are guys in the sport that are clean.
I agree. We can't just assume everyone is using just because they are big. Genetics play a huge factor and like you said, he looks pretty normal after he hydrates and is in the cage.


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i hate to see guys getting accused without any base, but i did the same to ubereem, so i can't judge. i just hope he isn't. you can get pretty big without roids, and water cutting is what fitness and muscle models do to look bigger, and more defined.
 

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All I'm going to say is this... Fitch.... I will now assume they are all on something.
 

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I Wild Each It;n17895 said:
I'll go on record and say he does not. I think he's just a thick military dude that gets ripped when he cuts 30 pounds. He looks nothing like that picture when he's walking around completely hydrated.
I will go on record and say tons of military dudes, especially in combat MOS's are on the sauce, can't see anything wrong with it in that respect. I'm just not comfortable with dudes who best each other up for a living being on shit, just not a good situation in that regard.
 

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Well he is not wrong. If they continue with out of competition testing then they will continue to catch a lot of guys for the next 5 years or so, until the guys who are coming up see what is going on and never get on it, and the guys who came up during lax testing - so ruined their ability to make test - retire. After that it will slow down, but expect a bumpy ride for a while.

This really couldn't have come at a worst time for the UFC what with the injury problem as well. However it is possible that the injury problem is a symptom of guys using roids and overtraining or people who used to use, but have come off and are no longer receiving the benefits. My guess is that the issue is routed somewhere between those two and the UFC insurance.
 

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Thatonedude;n17939 said:
I will go on record and say tons of military dudes, especially in combat MOS's are on the sauce, can't see anything wrong with it in that respect. I'm just not comfortable with dudes who best each other up for a living being on shit, just not a good situation in that regard.
I agree that fighters shouldn't be on it, because it provides an unfair advantage in training and in the octagon. I (me personally) just don't want to start lumping everyone into the PED pile, because some guys have gotten busted recently. Am I now more skeptical of everyone because this appears to be rampant in the sport? Yes. But I also don't think it's fair to say "so and so must be on it, because he looks like that" or "so and so must be on it, because so and so was busted for it". It's a slippery slope.
 

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I get what you're saying but it seems like as fans there will continue to be let downs in regards to this.... Fitch... Fucking Fitch.