UFC 186 and Quebec Fighter/Promoter Protections

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ErikMagraken

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Do you remember the Nick Diaz/GSP weigh in debacle?

I saved that video that Nick's team mate posted where the commission guy was informing Nick abut how GSP would weigh a pound over, or whatever it was, for the title fight and not face any penalty. Something along those lines.. Nick was pissed that nobody told him this until hours before hand after he'd already cut the weight, down to 170 on the dot for the title fight (since you have to be exactly on weight in a championship bout)

It's been a few years so I can't remember exactly what went down. I made sure to save the vid because it seemed fishy, and sure enough, Zuffa had the video pulled hours later.

I apologize for sketchy at best information but I figure you probably know what incident I'm talking about. Can you shed some light on exactly what that was all about? I just find it interesting that the Quebec commission has so many strange (well, compared to the rest of the comms.) clauses. I agree that it seems the UFC is risking some funky shit down the road by holding fights there.

To be completely honest, I wouldn't be surprised if they aren't even aware of this stuff. You'd think with their money, they could hire the best lawyers in the world... but you only need to do a bit of digging on the Xyience vs Rich Bergeron case to see how incompetent and ridiculous their past legal teams have acted. They tried to bury Bergeron and ruin his life, but justice actually prevailed on that one.

Erik, if possible, I'd love to ask some questions in the future about Xyience, Zuffa and Station Casinos' bankrupty cases. There seems to be so much fishy shit going on there that doesn't even scratch the surface. I know it's in the past now, but boy, that was some shady stuff.
Yes, I remember the scale incident. Basically GSP allegedly weighed in slightly over 170 and the AC decided that they were going to round down despite there being no such language allowing them to do so in the regs. The Quebec regs also don't allow an extra hour to make weight. Its one and done. Diaz challenged this after the fact but to no avail.
 

Γαλάνης

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Thanks for taking the time mang! Very interesting. Quebec = strange. Gotta wonder what could happen down the road.
 

megatherium

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I seem to recall UFC having some problems breaking into Quebec initially because of the local regulations. Didn't they have to sit down with the commission to iron some things out early on there? I'm pretty sure that Zuffa has been running shows in violation of the local regulations there all along and Quebec just agreed to turn a blind eye because of the money, what with GSP being a Quebecois superstar and all.

Always read that way from this distance anyway.
 

Lamont Cranston

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I remember back in the day Quebec got around anti MMA laws by using the term "Mixed Boxing" and that was how the UCC/TKO shows got started.

Also, that is where I met Yves Lavigne who is an awesome dude!
 

ErikMagraken

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I remember back in the day Quebec got around anti MMA laws by using the term "Mixed Boxing" and that was how the UCC/TKO shows got started.

Also, that is where I met Yves Lavigne who is an awesome dude!
Their Regulations still use the term 'mixed boxing' and the rules are not the unified rules of MMA. These are, of course, ignored when the UFC comes to town. You can click here for a breakdown of some of the key differences in Quebec's rules - Quebec Prompts Officials To Ignore Their Laws When the UFC Comes to Town | Combat Sports Law

If they want to use the Unified Rules I certainly have no issue, but they need to properly amend their Regulations to do this. Not make it up as they go along.
 

Lamont Cranston

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Their Regulations still use the term 'mixed boxing' and the rules are not the unified rules of MMA. These are, of course, ignored when the UFC comes to town. You can click here for a breakdown of some of the key differences in Quebec's rules - Quebec Prompts Officials To Ignore Their Laws When the UFC Comes to Town | Combat Sports Law

If they want to use the Unified Rules I certainly have no issue, but they need to properly amend their Regulations to do this. Not make it up as they go along.
It was one of my coaches who was the reason they banned foot stomps in Quebec after he used them at an event there.
 

lookoutawhale

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UCC/TKO was fun to watch. I wonder how their contracts looked since it was based in Montreal.