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Zeph

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Banjaxo said:
Corbyn was always dead set against maintaining Britain's nuclear deterrent.

Unfortunately for him, the trade unions to which he bowed were adamant that they would not accept the loss of jobs that would result from Britain's Trident missile equipped submarines being scrapped.

His solution to this quandary? Keep (and perhaps even update) the fleet of submarines capable of carrying those weapons, whilst getting rid of the weapons themselves, spending billions upon billions sending the subs we would no longer require out on pointless patrols with no deterrent on board.

Oh, and he also spoke about discussions with Argentina regarding the future of the Falklands.

www.bbc.co.uk

Corbyn: UK could keep Trident submarines but without warheads

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn suggests the UK could keep its Trident submarine fleet but without nuclear warheads as one option for protecting defence jobs.
www.bbc.co.uk

What a fucking unelectable muppet.
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How do all these countries without a nuclear deterent stop from being nuked?
 
NotBanjaxo

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Zeph said:
How do all these countries without a nuclear deterent stop from being nuked?
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The issue I have with his policy is not his desire to get rid of the nuclear deterrent, I can understand his position.

It's the retarded idea to get rid of the nukes but keep the submarines that used to carry them, costing billions to maintain and update a fleet of toothless, useless subs just to appease the unions.
 
NotBanjaxo

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Banjaxo said:
It depends what you mean by "the media". The British pro Tory tabloids such as Daily Mail, Sun, Star, Express certainly portrayed him in a bad light, but others like the Mirror, Guardian and Independent didn't. The television news were fairly even handed.
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Oh and Zeph @Zeph, don't just post a "drunk" rating on that post and then go waltzing off, explain what you disagree with please.
 
Coast

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Banjaxo said:
It depends what you mean by "the media". The British pro Tory tabloids such as Daily Mail, Sun, Star, Express certainly portrayed him in a bad light, but others like the Mirror, Guardian and Independent didn't. The television news were fairly even handed.
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True, but the Mirror and the Guardian combined only have about half of the circulation as the Daily Mail alone, and a mere of fraction if you were to combine the Mail, Sun and Express together.
 
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Anthony Fauci has recently said that the UK "rushed" to approve the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine without thorough review.

What is the approval process like in the UK?

In the US, when a company applies for an EUA (emergency use authorization), our regulatory body for food and drugs (the FDA) meets for four or so days and discusses the risks involved and then either gives or doesn't give an EUA, but even that is temporary and there is a more stringent process for full, permanent approval.

Similar process in the UK?
 
Zeph

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Banjaxo said:
Oh and Zeph @Zeph, don't just post a "drunk" rating on that post and then go waltzing off, explain what you disagree with please.
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To say the Guardian and Independent didn't portray him in a bad light is wrong. The Guardian endorsed the Liberal Democrats after all.
 
BeardOfKnowledge

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conor mcgregor nut hugger said:
Anthony Fauci has recently said that the UK "rushed" to approve the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine without thorough review.

What is the approval process like in the UK?

In the US, when a company applies for an EUA (emergency use authorization), our regulatory body for food and drugs (the FDA) meets for four or so days and discusses the risks involved and then either gives or doesn't give an EUA, but even that is temporary and there is a more stringent process for full, permanent approval.

Similar process in the UK?
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Isn't the U.S. having that meeting this week?
 
Zeph

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Banjaxo said:
The issue I have with his policy is not his desire to get rid of the nuclear deterrent, I can understand his position.

It's the retarded idea to get rid of the nukes but keep the submarines that used to carry them, costing billions to maintain and update a fleet of toothless, useless subs just to appease the unions.
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It's not a bad idea. The subs are still operational, but the bulk of the cost is upgrading the arsenal. They have 4 torpedoe tubes so could be used as an attack sub until they get phased out. We don't have enough escorts to send both of our carriers out to sea and maintain our commitments to patrol our borders and for pirates, since we consolidated our navy into bigger more powerful but less numerous ships. It would be a quick way to bolster those numbers.
 
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Thor Georgeos said:
They reviewed data as it became available instead of reviewing it as a dump at the conclusion. Fauci was just being salty.
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I considered this a possiblity, but I cant imagine the FDA didn't also review data as it became available.

Perhaps Pfizer is bringing more data to the December 10 meeting?

Also Moderna is scheduled for December 17. Don't know when that one is going to be reviewed by the UK.
 
BeardOfKnowledge

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conor mcgregor nut hugger said:
I considered this a possiblity, but I cant imagine the FDA didn't also review data as it became available.

Perhaps Pfizer is bringing more data to the December 10 meeting?

Also Moderna is scheduled for December 17. Don't know when that one is going to be reviewed by the UK.
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I was just reading an article on why the U.K. was first and that was the explanation. Fauci apologized for his comments saying the U.K. does things differently. Personally, I have no dog in the fight I'll probably never be offered a vaccine.
 
Leigh

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ThatOneDude said:
Leigh @Leigh why do y'all tolerate this?

www.statista.com

Infographic: The Growing Cost of the Royal Family to UK Taxpayers

This chart shows the total cost of the UK's Royal Family by year.
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Imagine you owned a business. You employ me as a manager and you want me to bring in the best staff to work for your company. However, instead I give my family members - who have no experience in the field - some important roles. Would you be pissed off?

The American people tolerating all the Trumps on the taxpayer payroll explains why the general public tolerate anything. I get that's a whataboutism but it's a demonstration that people don't seem to give a shit about their taxes being wasted, or are at least powerless to do anything about it.
 
ThatOneDude

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Leigh said:
Imagine you owned a business. You employ me as a manager and you want me to bring in the best staff to work for your company. However, instead I give my family members - who have no experience in the field - some important roles. Would you be pissed off?

The American people tolerating all the Trumps on the taxpayer payroll explains why the general public tolerate anything. I get that's a whataboutism but it's a demonstration that people don't seem to give a shit about their taxes being wasted, or are at least powerless to do anything about it.
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I agree, that's completely insane as well. I'll let your whataboutism slide this time, because you're a good guy and its Christmas.
 
kneeblock

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So UK wtf with this vaccine distribution?

Y'all went and brexited and lost your minds?
 
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kneeblock said:
So UK wtf with this vaccine distribution?

Y'all went and brexited and lost your minds?
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At least they are actually vaccinating cunts. We aren't even going to start vaccinations until March.
 
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Banjaxo said:
It's interesting that before Argentina invaded the Falklands, there were some within government that viewed the Falklands as a problem that was an impediment to trade agreements in South America. They wanted to find a way to transfer sovereignty to Argentina to overcome this, although the Falkland Islanders themselves were dead set against the idea. Many people in Britain would have had a hard time even pointing to a rough location on a map.

Since the war, any politician who advocates for giving the islands to Argentina would be committing political suicide.

The history of Argentina's claim to ownership is very weak if you look into it.

en.wikipedia.org

Reassertion of British sovereignty over the Falkland Islands (1833) - Wikipedia

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When they invaded the islands my sqn , 1 f sqn, were part of the battle to win them back. We had the argie flag in our hangar at work.
 
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