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Fuck ya. My kids are finally back to school and I’m waiting for new employer to get me started. I got time to dive in, I haven’t even started the headset on yet. Would it be weird to watch VR porn knowing that once my son gets home he’ll be using it for gorilla tag?
I thought you were self employed for some reason

i hope the new gig satisfies you
 

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I thought you were self employed for some reason

i hope the new gig satisfies you
Nah I have no interest in running my own company. My dads been an electrical contractor since th early 70s and I’ve seen what it take. Hard pass.
 

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So long usb cable is needed for me to access other catalogs like steam?
No, you can connect PC to Steam over wifi either with the free built in software or with the virtual desktop app, which you have to buy, but some top tier games, I've found, just get a bit buggy and really test the connection. It's nice to have the cord in case. The official oculus cord isn't worth it, but there are cheap ones for around $15 that do the job. I also like to have the cord for when my battery dies to use to plug into basically any phone brick and keep it going if you're really into a game or experience.
 

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This post composed in VR.

Just found the holy grail of apps to make a true metaverse. It's called Neos. Played with a really cool experience where you freely move between the limits of the observable universe and atomic scale.
 

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This post composed in VR.

Just found the holy grail of apps to make a true metaverse. It's called Neos. Played with a really cool experience where you freely move between the limits of the observable universe and atomic scale.
You gonna fuck me up if I am able surf the internet easily while also watching VR pr0n on a much bigger yacht
 

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@Fingers Coast @Coast IschKabibble @IschKabibble PaleAndGangly @PaleAndGangly La Paix @Nuk Soo Kow shall we have a meetup in Horizon Worlds or VRChat? So far the coolest social space I've been to is Chillout VR but it's on Steam.
I'd be up for that, if I can find the time for it.

Splinty @Splinty I hate to add another thing you should buy to the list, but if you havent already bought a different strap, I would recommend going for one that has the extra battery built in. As it stands you get 2-3 hours out of the headset, and it takes as long to charge as it does to drain. I've connected a powerbank to mine which will give it another 4 or so hours.

Does anyone have any apps to recommend. I've been playing Thrill of The Fight mostly, just downloaded the Star Wars Pinball, which is unreal - you lean over the table and if it wasn't for the fact you had a headset on you wouldn't know it wasn't a real table you were looking at.
 

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I'd be up for that, if I can find the time for it.

Splinty @Splinty I hate to add another thing you should buy to the list, but if you havent already bought a different strap, I would recommend going for one that has the extra battery built in. As it stands you get 2-3 hours out of the headset, and it takes as long to charge as it does to drain. I've connected a powerbank to mine which will give it another 4 or so hours.

Does anyone have any apps to recommend. I've been playing Thrill of The Fight mostly, just downloaded the Star Wars Pinball, which is unreal - you lean over the table and if it wasn't for the fact you had a headset on you wouldn't know it wasn't a real table you were looking at.
My roommate is addicted to Population One. He sits in a chair to play and spins around killing young children for hours. It's a little disturbing, but I'm happy that he's happy. He plays on Quest 2 and has the external battery as well. He recently hooked the battery to the back of his head strap as a counterweight to prevent the screen from sliding down his face. I was skeptical but it turned out to be really comfortable.
 

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I’ve spent over an hour this morning trying to add a second account to my kids Quest 2. I’m about to smash the fucking thing.
 

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I'd be up for that, if I can find the time for it.

Splinty @Splinty I hate to add another thing you should buy to the list, but if you havent already bought a different strap, I would recommend going for one that has the extra battery built in. As it stands you get 2-3 hours out of the headset, and it takes as long to charge as it does to drain. I've connected a powerbank to mine which will give it another 4 or so hours.

Does anyone have any apps to recommend. I've been playing Thrill of The Fight mostly, just downloaded the Star Wars Pinball, which is unreal - you lean over the table and if it wasn't for the fact you had a headset on you wouldn't know it wasn't a real table you were looking at.
I'm gonna make my list here of things I've gotten on the Quest, on the Oculus store on my PC, on Steam and elsewhere on the interwebz. Just give me a minute to look through everything and I'll write a bible length post.
 

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We bought the unit for my son for Xmas so it’s all setup as he wants. I’m trying to add my own account, I thought eees normal?
If you are using another account, mind that some apps are not shared across different accounts. You may find you son would have to use your account to play certain things, or you would have to buy them again on his account.
 

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I'm gonna make my list here of things I've gotten on the Quest, on the Oculus store on my PC, on Steam and elsewhere on the interwebz. Just give me a minute to look through everything and I'll write a bible length post.
So, here's the list.

On the Quest 2

Non-games

Virtual Desktop: On the Oculus, you can connect to your PC in a number of ways. There is the Oculus Link which you can do over WiFi. It works, but sometimes gets glitchy. You can also plug a USB-C into your device and PC and get probably the best resolution and framerate, but based on Recommendations, I'd heard Virtual Desktop was the easiest, most functional way to connect your headset wirelessly to your PC and access all its functions and I was not disappointed. It's very simple to run and doesn't lock you in one place like the native oculus app (Workspace) nor does it ever glitch. It gives you running stats ln your PC's performance. If you have a good PC with a good graphics card and you keep it connected to an ethernet, you can get really good performance on this app. I maybe should've tried more with Oculus Wireless Link, but I just couldn't get it to work well consistently so I got this app. Useful if you're downloading apps that are PC only because remember, the Quest runs on essentially the hardware of a high end mobile device.

Horizon Worlds: This is Facebook's stab at giving users the ability to create their own experiences and games and socialize. While I'm impressed that FB is teaching people how to build, the assets are pretty basic. You'll get some cool stuff that's cartoony and of course be able to socialize, but it has some hard limits.

Horizon Events: Similar to above, it's cartoony avatars drifting around talking to one another, but this time while attending events like a view from the International Space Station, OneFC, some NBA games, a 2Chainz concert and other assorted things. So far FB hasn't booked many good events, but OneFC is cool to watch despite the casuals.

VRChat: This is arguably THE most popular social space. There are a number of worlds you can visit and just talk with others or hang out forever alone. It kind of reminds me of Clubhouse plus weird avatars. Available on the Quest or Steam.

VTime: I've been using this since I had Google Cardboard. It's basically a space where 4 people can sit and talk in a number of settings, underwater, in space, on a cliff's edge, etc. Useful if you have 4 friends with any type of headset.

Bigscreen: This is for watching movies socially. You basically get an iMax size screen you can watch 3d movies on or you can load your own. You can also bring your desktop into this space and share with others. Virtual desktop is a bit better imo, but bigscreen is cool for its 3D films.

NetflixVR: Netflix but in VR. You get to sit in a cozy cabin watching a TV.

YouTube VR: Here you can watch regular YouTube, but there are a lot of 360 videos worth checking out that people have uploaded. If you want to see live action video, it's worth it, though there are other apps with more slickly produced content, like all things YouTube.

Wander: Basically Google Street View that you pay for. It's a good app for what it is, but you can get google earth on your PC for free and accomplish the same thing.

Within: A good overview of cinematic VR that I've been playing since the Gear VR days. Some cool experiences including some that won awards. They have good curation so you usually see some cool experiences that push storytelling in different and interesting ways.

Games

Population One: Basically Fortnite or PubG on the Quest. Good game. Easy to play and you don't need to be a munitions expert to just get in and start shooting.

Onward: This is a more tactical shooter, kind of like Call of Duty. The gun loading is maybe a little too realistic, but it's fun once you get the hang of it.

Thrill of the Fight: very realistic boxing game amazingly made by a pencil necked geek. While other games like Creed: Rise to Glory offer player vs player boxing, it's horribly buggy and the hand tracking is sometimes off. This game is for people who like to actually box. It's a great workout.

Deisim: This is one of my favorite games. In it you're a god and you build a roomscale world and populate it with flora, fauna and humans. They sometimes go to war, which you can stop by hurling thunderbolts. You can also redistribute resources between the towns the people build. Look out for heretics. They'll foment war so you must either hurl them off your map or eat them.

Vader Immortal: I hesitated to buy this game on PS4 VR because I kept hearing it was short, but it's actually 3 episodes that all together cost about $30 and are the length of a full Star Wars movie. The graphics are incredible and there's a Lightsaber Dojo training mode where you just work on your dueling skills for hours and hours. Truly awesome as a Star Wars fan. In it, you're training to be Vader's apprentice and it's set between episodes 3 and 4.

I have some other apps that I've not really used yet like Supernatural (a workout app) or Alcove (a video watching and social app) or Shack Pavlov (a shooter) or Resist (essentially Spider-Man with guns). I'll return to review those after I use them more.

Generally, I've found you should trust the reviews and avoid things that aren't rated a 4.0 or higher, with only a couple exceptions (e.g. Netflix). I'll return to post the Steam and PC games I have a bit later.
 

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We bought the unit for my son for Xmas so it’s all setup as he wants. I’m trying to add my own account, I thought eees normal?
In simple terms, it's easier to just delete the browser history than to add a second account.
 

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kneeblock @kneeblock so, someone is going to ask this sooner or later - do you use any of the apps to sideload - things like Rclone or loader.

I've bought a fair few things for it but tried loader the other day, I was like a kid in a candy shop.

And yeah, I think Virtual Desktop should be the first thing bough for the Quest, too many problems with default option where as Virtual Desktop works flawless for me.

A few games I like not already mentioned by you.

Gorn - Roman Arena type game, use maces, swords, bows, axes, and a bunch of other stuff to chop the opponents to bits. Good fun.

Eleven - Its just ping pong that you can play online, but it actually feels like real ping pong.

The Walking Dead Saints and Sinners - The closest thing the quest has to a AAA title. I can play 15 minutes at time before the motion sickness sets in, if fact if I didn't get sea sick everytime I play a game that moves, this would be my favourite.

Superhot VR - You look at this on YT and looks shit. Playing it is completely different. Basically its a shooter where time only moves when you move, the quicker you move the quicker time moves. It makes for some matrix type moments.

The Climb - A rock climbing simulator, sounds shit but its genuinely fun, you get a real feel for how high you are when your losing grip and about to fall.

Beat Sabre - Everyone else has it, you might as well have it too. Play your first go on Expert+ and call bullshit on it all.
 
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In simple terms, it's easier to just delete the browser history than to add a second account.
If so that’s completed retarded. If the idea is to have the headset use up to 3 users then let me do it. Reading online there’s lots of other people with same issue. I’m not looking to hide anything but like a shared computer I like it set up for me, that’s the whole idea of the meta verse no? Only thing I haven’t tried is factory reset. Reason being it has to be done over app and my sons phone is at school with him so I’m not able to. I know even on Xbox playing COD or whatever. My son will be using my account sometimes and one of my buddies with just join his game and be all “YO YO MOTHER FUCKER WHUT UP?!! KILL MANY FAGS?!”. Lol. I’m not impressed with this aspect of it at all. It’s bad enough I had to make a FB account.
 

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If so that’s completed retarded. If the idea is to have the headset use up to 3 users then let me do it. Reading online there’s lots of other people with same issue. I’m not looking to hide anything but like a shared computer I like it set up for me, that’s the whole idea of the meta verse no? Only thing I haven’t tried is factory reset. Reason being it has to be done over app and my sons phone is at school with him so I’m not able to. I know even on Xbox playing COD or whatever. My son will be using my account sometimes and one of my buddies with just join his game and be all “YO YO MOTHER FUCKER WHUT UP?!! KILL MANY FAGS?!”. Lol. I’m not impressed with this aspect of it at all. It’s bad enough I had to make a FB account.

this isn't relevant?
 

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this isn't relevant?
I was there earlier in my pursuit. It will go as far as “enter five digit code to pair headset”. It’s never popped up as advertised but Reddit showed my how to find it the long way. Even then it just stalls out when trying to BT pair headset to app on my iPhone repeatedly. Everything has been restarted, uninstalled and reinstalled and so on. ?‍♂
 

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Shout out to Coast @Coast for a lot of solid recommendations. Each of those games looks cool. I played Superhot back in the Gear VR days, but for whatever reason even though I got it through the Oculus store, I no longer own it and I refuse to pay for things twice. Still, it's a really good game. I'll definitely try some of the others. I have Walking Dead on the PSVR, but didn't get around to it because I feel bad for the zombies. One thing mentioned was sideloading through alternate app stores, which the Quest has made easier lately. It just requires a few settings tweaks and opens you up to a lot more games. In addition to this, there are a lot of WebVR games you can play just in the browser. You can of course use both Pornhub and XHamster for VR content of that type as well as sites that specialize in it and contain a lot of premium content like VRPorn and BadoinkVR. Membership to VRPorn gets you free demos of several games.

Here's my list of other things I have on my PC that require connecting either over wifi or with a cable. Some of these stretch the definition of games, but that's how they brand themselves. Others are more utilities or social experiences.

Oculus App on PC

Non-Games

Google Earth VR: As I said above about Wander, you can get this free app and get the same experience. Searching can be a bit clunkier, but if you've ever used Earth or Maps or Street View on your mobile device, you know what to expect. You can travel to (almost) anywhere and walk the streets as if you were there.

Games

Lone Echo: I haven't started this game yet, but everyone raves about it as if it was the greatest game in VR history. It's won a ton of awards. You're basically a robot whose human partner is about to leave you behind in a space station and you go through fixing the space station and other tasks, but there are supposedly a lot of emotional touchpoints that make it especially moving. I'll likely try this tonight or tomorrow. Haven't purchased Part 2, but I read that it's not as good.

Steam

Non-Games

SteamVR: If you intend to play any games on your PC, in or out of Steam, you need this app. Valve has helpfully offered this free app to load most VR games and experiences into the Oculus Quest. It's absolutely essential to unlock the power of your PC and Quest. Things probably work differently on other headsets, but I can't say. You can use the in-built Oculus app for some connections, but without Steam VR, things are frankly a mess.

ChilloutVR: This is the social app I was mentioning earlier. It's better than VRChat or Horizon Worlds or others imo because there's a lot of attention that went into the scenery. It's also pretty user friendly. Like many apps, it does require registering on their website, which gets a bit clunky, but overall, it's not too difficult. There aren't very many users here because it's technically still in early access, so it's better for meeting with people you already know as opposed to meeting new people.

Nature Treks Together: This app is also a social app where you can walk around on a small or medium sized archipelago and talk to people by the campfire. Allegedly they'll be expanding it to add more backgrounds in forests etc. It's a cool place to just take a break in virtual nature if real nature isn't accessible or to have a chat with someone. You can also draw and sculpt and it has some limited creation abilities.

Games

Hand Simulator: This is supposed to be a kind of way of getting used to the mechanics of VR, but I've never been able to get it working properly on my Quest, so for now I can't recommend.

The Lab: This is a good intro to VR. Good graphics, good intro to mechanics and some solid replayability value. A short, but fun game where you go into a bunch of smaller worlds and shoot a bow an arrow, destroy shelves full of boxes with a slingshot, explore a wizard shop, explore the solar system moving planets around wherever you like, and play fetch in various CGI rendered places with a robot dog. Cool little game to get your feet wet and free.

Virtual Virtual Reality: I started this on the Playstation. It's a weird sort of meta-commentary on the implications of VR for humanity. Hard to explain more than that, but it's worth it.

Sentenced VR: I haven't started this yet, but it's basically a morality play where you're an executioner chopping off heads in medieval times. You can decline to kill the people, however, which sets off a chain of consequences.

Calm Down Stalin: This is a game where you play as Stalin and you're getting increasingly agitated, moving your finger closer to the button which will launch nukes to destroy the world. Pretty funny game that's pretty simple and task driven. I haven't played it all the way through.

TribeXR DJ School: I believe you can buy this on the Quest too, but it was cheaper on Steam. In this game, you actually learn how to be a DJ, step by step and have to keep the party going. If you always wanted to learn to do it for real with records, this simulator is pretty legit. Be the top international DJ that guy at the other place used to party with.

Half-Life: Alyx: This is simply stated the best VR game I've played as yet. I loved Half-Life 2. It was the first PC game I got truly lost in. Playing in VR has its fair share of terrifying moments, but the graphics are incredible and it's just a really well done top tier game that's a fitting successor to the Half Life franchise. One piece of advice: Mind your ammo! You can get caught out there all of a sudden and then you just have to use your wits to stay safe from various monsters until you can find some somewhere. This game is so good, you either have to just set an alarm to stop playing or get sufficiently terrified by jumping turkeys hurling themselves at you to just step away. I've heard Resident Evil is its best competitor, but this one was built from the ground up for VR so it's legit af.

Adult

VR Hot: Probably not worth it, but not a bad intro to what's possible in the CGI VR porn space. You have an highly customizable partner at your disposal who wants to cater to your every whim. There's a clunky BDSM room in the back of your virtual apartment that will frustrate you as you try to work the restraints, but the game wins some points for the customization menus, which are decent.

Operation Lovecraft: If you want to see a realistic anime like character do weird things with humans, aliens, spiders, ogres, and other creatures, this is the demo for you. More third person than first person, so get your inner gonzo director on.

DIY My Lady in VR World: This game advertises itself as being able to make a fully customizable figure. Once you get in, it turns out you can load photos which it will use to create a CGI rendering. Overall, it sucks. The rendering isn't great and it froze up and stopped working forever. If you're trying to watch Serena Williams dance or you're pining over your ex, you're probably out of luck and should just go to therapy instead.

PC

These games/experiences you download from the creators' websites.

Non-games

Neos: I mentioned this earlier in the thread, but this game is basically the Ready Player One of the so-called Metaverse. Hundreds of worlds, total customizability, a bit of a learning curve, once again, but the sky is the limit. You can build your own worlds, customize your avatar in a number of ways and it's social so you can hang with others all you like. I played through one experience I mentioned yesterday in this called The Universe where you start out walking around Protons and Neutrons and then can make your way all the way to the Cosmic Background Radiation, passing all sorts of plants, animals, objects, nations, meteors etc along the way. You just turn a little wheel to navigate them. Very cool. It reminded me of the vWorld in the Battlestar Galactica: Caprica series. Unlike Zuckerberg's version of the metaverse, most things are free. You can also trade the in game currency for etherium to pay creators somehow, but I'm not hip to that.

Games

Elite Dangerous: This has a bit of a learning curve, but if you want a true Space Simulator where you fly around, get in missions, and can join a whole fleet who you're traversing planets with, this is one of the oldest and most well developed games around. I had some difficulty getting it setup because you have to login to their site and a bunch of other stuff, but once I was all set, it's pretty dope. The spaceflight is a little more difficult than No Man's Sky as the physics are more realistic, but if you want to hotdog it in space and you're not getting No Man's Sky or Star Wars: Squadrons (both of which are great, but I already have for Playstation), then this is the game for you. If you already have those games, it's still a good addition. This is also available on Steam or through the Oculus PC store.

Adult

Virt-a-Mate: This is the granddaddy of CGI porn games. It has probably the steepest learning curve of all VR experiences. Much like Neos to a lesser extent, you're essentially working through Unity. It can be frustrating at times, but the payoff is worth it. There are numerous free and sometimes pay "looks" you can download that feature many well known faces and bodies, which is a bit of a creepshow, but if you get into this app, you'll be so busy building scenes and tweaking poses that you'll forget to jerk off. In many ways, this app more than any other shows you the power of VR for model rendering and creating responsive basic AI. All the models follow you with their eyes and there are some incredible likenesses. I've posted a few samples elsewhere (fapout). If you want a shortcut that doesn't require a lot of study, use the app vamX with it since it ports in many looks, scenes, and animations in a much more user friendly way. You'll need a decent graphics card and it's faster with a cord than over wifi, but the time lag isn't too noticeable. The app features a devoted community on their VamHub website as well as on Reddit and Discord plus there are long Wikis and YouTube videos around. It's powerful enough that you can even create yourself and put your body in there if you're so motivated and knowledgeable. Apparently also you can sync with a fleshlight or dildo somehow, but I'm not there yet. It takes awhile to reach even blue belt in this app, but it's something.

Captain Hardcore: You're on a spaceship where you bang very customizable CGI models. The graphics are a slight step down from what's possible in Virt-a-Mate, but it's a lot more user friendly. If you want to dip your toe in the world of VR perversion, this is an easier step, but the demo has limited content. There's also a slightly stripped down Quest 2 version that you can sideload if you don't want to hook up to PC.

CherryVX: Another entry level game that works well on the quest. Limited characters and settings. It's functional enough, but has some features that ruin the immersion and the models are a bit too cartoony.

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As with everything, I highly recommend reading user reviews. Some things look a lot cooler than they end up being, so don't get snowed by the marketing. All of these games/experiences have their quirks, but some are downright unplayable or get messed up easily and their developers have effectively abandoned them. Steam has a good community of reviewers and the deluge of Oculus users since Christmas means there are a lot of people opining on those games too. The PC app reviews you sometimes have to look around for and weigh the pluses and minuses.

I should also say this all can be highly addictive so use carefully. I actually recommend NOT getting the battery pack because sometimes low battery is a good excuse to take a break. Also, not sure what works and doesn't for Mac users so look into that if you are one. Also, if your laptop or desktop is a POS, you'll probably have problems with Steam or PC games. You don't need a top of the line amount of memory or graphics card for some of these, but for others I have no idea how it would perform. I got a relatively cheap gaming laptop last year to run statistical packages on and it's turned out to work beautifully for VR. Some of these things will even work on Windows 8.1 though, so have no fear. DO NOT upgrade to Windows 11. If you have, some things will work, but others aren't set up for it yet.

Pro-tips: In Experimental Features in the Quest, enable 120 hz refresh rate (can affect battery life), Passthrough Shortcut, and put your couch in VR.
 
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