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Filthy

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Yeah, there is no difference at all between Bernie and Ted Cruz, or AOC and Tom Cotton. Identical. President AOC or President MTG, it's exactly the same, absolutely no difference between any of them, at all.

Insightful commentary, for sure, and no doubt I can be certain that you'll be able to back it up with reality and certainly not just two lines about your feelings, based on absolutely nothing. Just to confirm, though, real quick - are you a troll, or a legitimate simpleton?

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Bernie Sanders is the Ron Paul of the DNC. Both were popular with the voters and pushed out national contention by the party establishment. There is only the illusion of choice in US national elections.

notice that your entire comment was over-broad generalizations, strawmen, and ad hominens.

you're bringing nothing to the table.
 

John Lee Pettimore

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Bernie Sanders is the Ron Paul of the DNC. Both were popular with the voters and pushed out national contention by the party establishment. There is only the illusion of choice in US national elections.

notice that your entire comment was over-broad generalizations, strawmen, and ad hominens.

you're bringing nothing to the table.
The "party establishment" HATED Trump.

Too bad for them. He destroyed every other candidate, won the nomination and the Presidency, and took over the party entirely.

If what you said was in fact true, then Trump would never have been the President and Hillary, not Obama, would have been the Democrat nominee in 2008.

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Filthy

Michigan Girls Are Ugly
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The "party establishment" HATED Trump.

Too bad for them. He destroyed every other candidate, won the nomination and the Presidency, and took over the party entirely.

If what you said was in fact true, then Trump would never have been the President and Hillary, not Obama, would have been the Democrat nominee in 2008.

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or they thought that running against Trump was a slam dunk for Hillary, and votes "for" Trump were really just votes for "Not Hillary"....like votes for Biden were votes for "Not Trump".

Understanding how the illusion of choice works must be very enlightening for you, happy to provide The Science (tm)
 

Filthy

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"If the system was rigged so that only old white billionaires could be President, how do you explain how that old white billionaire beat the system?"

- John Lee Pettimore @John Lee Pettimore, basically.
 

John Lee Pettimore

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or they thought that running against Trump was a slam dunk for Hillary, and votes "for" Trump were really just votes for "Not Hillary"....like votes for Biden were votes for "Not Trump".

Understanding how the illusion of choice works must be very enlightening for you, happy to provide The Science (tm)
Everything's a conspiracy, all the time, isn't it. Every single fucking thing.

No evidence? No problem. Just go with your feelings, you agree with them more than you agree with facts anyway.

"The Establishment chooses the President, the votes mean nothing!"

Well, the last two Presidents were outsiders relative to their primary AND general opponents. The Democrat establishment wanted Hillary over Obama. Too bad for them - the people chose otherwise. The Republican establishment wanted Jeb, and then they wanted ANYONE but Trump. Too bad for them - the people chose otherwise. So that pretty much ruins your "argument", right there.

Oh but your feelings. What about your precious feelings? Whatever you want to be the case, that's what it is. Just as easy as that. Must be nice, to live in a world that is so simple.

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Filthy

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Everything's a conspiracy, all the time, isn't it. Every single fucking thing.

No evidence? No problem. Just go with your feelings, you agree with them more than you agree with facts anyway.

"The Establishment chooses the President, the votes mean nothing!"

Well, the last two Presidents were outsiders relative to their primary AND general opponents. The Democrat establishment wanted Hillary over Obama. Too bad for them - the people chose otherwise. The Republican establishment wanted Jeb, and then they wanted ANYONE but Trump. Too bad for them - the people chose otherwise.

Oh but your feelings. What about your precious feelings? Whatever you want to be the case, that's what it is. Just as easy as that. Must be nice, to live in a world that is so simple.

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you're still not going to be able to articulate an actual difference between Obama, Hillary, Trump, or Biden.

"illusion of choice"

which one was against bailing out banks and wanted to cut the defense budget?
 

Sound System

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Everything's a conspiracy, all the time, isn't it. Every single fucking thing.

No evidence? No problem. Just go with your feelings, you agree with them more than you agree with facts anyway.

"The Establishment chooses the President, the votes mean nothing!"

Well, the last two Presidents were outsiders relative to their primary AND general opponents. The Democrat establishment wanted Hillary over Obama. Too bad for them - the people chose otherwise. The Republican establishment wanted Jeb, and then they wanted ANYONE but Trump. Too bad for them - the people chose otherwise. So that pretty much ruins your "argument", right there.

Oh but your feelings. What about your precious feelings? Whatever you want to be the case, that's what it is. Just as easy as that. Must be nice, to live in a world that is so simple.

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9.11 was an inside job

Look into building 7

Look into building 6