General What do you guys think about parents that accidentally leave their kids in hot cars???

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  1. Splinty

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    I think...

    They're not winning any parent of the year awards

    Sad when it happens, but I question humanity's 'solution' to double punish someone who already lost their child... doesn't really accomplish anything.
    Maybe make them do something for society: Put them on "hot car patrol" for 6 months to look for locked cars with animals & kids. I dunno.
     
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    Something wrong with someone who leaves their kid in a hot car for 8 hours.....mental issues
     
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    I think that its a mistake any of us could make.
     
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    Sorry to laugh but it’s preposterous that someone could think that is a safe way to leave your child
     
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    No one said it was. We aren't talking intentional leaving. We are talking accidental. Busy parent goes to work, forgets the kid in the back seat, finds dead kid later, etc.
     
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    You need to bulk up on condoms bud.
     
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    Yea if I have to be criminally liable for the time I forgot to brake and killed a guys bench advertisement then they should be too.
     
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    no. (full disclosure - I came up with a prevention system that will be on the market very soon)

    The simple fact is that you're brain doesn't assign priority to memory, it's entirely contextual.
    So unless there's evidence of premeditation, you should not be criminally liable.
     
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    May or may not be a "mistake," but they should be criminally liable either way.
     
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    People really forget their children? Really forget? Like a phone or an iPad?



















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    It happens.
    Usually it's a morning that's different than all the others. Like usually the mom takes the kid to daycare but this time the dad had to. He puts the sleeping kid in the car, gets his coffee at the UDF like usual then routine kicks in and he forgets all about the kid in the backseat. Leaves him in there while at work and doesn't realize his mistake until he returns to the car.

    I can't even imagine how bad the parent feels after something like that. It's certainly not done on purpose, so I'd have a hard time finding them criminally responsible.
     
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    There is for sure a nuance to how such a thing can happen. You pray it does not, but human's make unintended mistakes at times and in the scenarios you present, that can happen.

    Most people grasp that, and it's straightforward. Matter of fact, if you ask any parents that have 2 or 3 or 4 kids, and their kids are all grown up, they may not have had this exact scenario with a hot car, but I bet you they will have had some close calls, with their kids in some kind of way. Like not a hot car, but maybe some Mom has 3 kids, taking them all to soccer and baseball practices on a day, kids are ages 6,8, and 10. There could be a scenario that on accident the 6 year old gets left behind at one of the practices they left, and the Mom does not lose her kid forever, but has a few hours of the child missing.

    It it happens to the same parent a lot of times that is a different issue. But you can be amazing, hardworking, realiable parents and have such crappy accidents happen, contrary to @Yossarian@Yossarian's glib remark.
     
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    I say they shouldn't be.
    I've got a couple of funnies some agree and a drunk rating.

    Obviously there's some spread of opinion here
     
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    Wut?
     
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    Hey, I left a chocolate bar in my cup holder last week which made a fine mess, so who am I to judge?

    Come on people, we're talking about a miniature human being, not a bag of gym clothes or a hat or something. Who would forget a kid in the car? Fuck even Sean Penn in "I Am Sam" had the wherewithal not to do that.

    Yes they deserve to be criminally responsible (and I hope they burn in hell).
     
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    Why do you think they shouldn't?
    This was a person and was totally dependent on their parent for their safety. Leaving a toddler in a hot car for 8 hours is criminal negligence causing death or involuntary manslaughter imo. I mean, she's obviously not safe to be in society if she can't even be bothered to remember about her infant/toddler for that span of time.
     
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    I’m thinking splintiotomy is “taking the piss” with his comments......
     
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    Kids die in accidents when under parent supervision all the time in scenarios in which we don't hold the family criminally liable.


    Hauler does a good job of explaining the details how all these cases have something in common that Stacks up just right... The swiss cheese model...
     
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    I'm not.
    Others agree with me. I'm just taking the time to post right now.
     
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    So you think it’s possible to accidentally leave a child in the car as you go to work?
     
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    You're right on this time too...

    A hot car, a dead child: Oregon mom's lawyer explains how it happened

    She awoke last Thursday morning to find her husband fast asleep on the couch. His night shift as an emergency room tech at Mercy Medical Center in Roseburg had ended only hours before.

    So Nicole Engler, a pediatric nurse, decided to let him sleep. She would handle his usual day care duties for their daughter, Remington, before heading off to work.

    She bundled up their 21-month-old daughter, the adored child she'd spent 15 years trying to conceive. She placed her carefully into the car. She left the house. Her minded drifted to her day ahead, and soon she was on her route to work.

    Hours later, the 38-year-old mother left the office and returned to her car. There she found her daughter , known to her family as Remy, unconscious and blue.

    The mother's shrieks could be heard across the parking lot, witnesses said.


    The detailed account, told by Engler's lawyer Thursday, comes a week after that day ended with daughter dead and mother behind bars, begging guards to let her commit suicide

    The night before, mother and daughter, alone in their Gordon Avenue home, ate breakfast for dinner scrambled eggs and watched the movie "Ratatouille," Terry said.

    Engler followed the normal routine the next morning when she woke up. She got Remy out of bed and clothed her. She gave her daughter a bottle, which she always had while Dad drove her to day care.

    But when she saw her husband fast asleep on the couch, she decided to drop Remy off instead.

    The two left in the family's Honda CRV. Soon, Engler was on Northeast Diamond Lake Boulevard, following the 4-mile route she took to work each day.

    She thought about her duties and work commitments that morning. An 8:15 a.m. appointment with a child. The meeting with parents where she'd deliver them bad news.

    Engler never stopped at Cobb Street Children's Learning Center. Lost in thought, she pulled into the parking lot at Evergreen Family Medicine just before 8 a.m.

    That afternoon, Engler got back into her car and drove to a Dutch Bros. Coffee stand she visited daily. She excitedly told the servers about the upcoming fishing trip in Mexico her family booked.

    She gushed about Remy to the Dutch Bros employees. She returned to work.

    About 4:30 p.m., Engler left her office. She arrived at her car. And screamed.
     
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