General While standing Floyd said "I can't breathe"

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nuraknu

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Doesn't really matter. If he was on the ground handcuffed with four police officers around him, can't justify knee on neck for several minutes.
 

nuraknu

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Whatever was said, whatever was in his system, whatever resistance there was -- it's all a red herring. The issue on the table occurred after he was in custody. Those six minutes or however long are the only thing that count here in terms of the murder crime that was committed other than whatever state of mind arguments Chauvin's attorney wants to make.

Had George Floyd lived, he could have answered in the criminal justice system for whatever occurred before, however he was supposed to answer. If he was saying he couldn't breathe before, that just means they should have maybe called in a paramedic or done it by the book, whatever that means in Minneapolis. If he resisted arrest, he should have been charged with that once he was safely in custody. Instead, the other crime took place.
 

BenAskrensStrikingcoach

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Jan 30, 2015
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Cop was guilty of letting a man die under his knee, even if he didn't cause the death directly he might have prevented it by using less force on an already restrained suspect.

He also could have been smart enough to know Floyd was no threat to him at that stage and also how sensitive a situation he was in, especially with all of those cameras on him, he was making a statement and it back fired badly.
 

Guerrilla

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If its a legal technique the cop may get off

its endlessly frustrating to a wrestling coach to see cops who cant WRESTLE!!

most cops have nearly zero hand to hand experience

Probably kill less people if they got better at grappling
 

nuraknu

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If its a legal technique the cop may get off

its endlessly frustrating to a wrestling coach to see cops who cant WRESTLE!!

most cops have nearly zero hand to hand experience

Probably kill less people if they got better at grappling
Don't know about legal but I'm pretty sure it already came out that it wasn't part of his formal training for that job.
 

Splinty

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ok I'm going to roll with the OP premise...

So he's having a medical problem, he's restrained, the cop has backup...so the cop exacerbates the medical problem and then I'm supposed to just be cool with that?

I have patients act crazy ALL the time. What do you do after you wrestle them down and have four people on each limb? You put them in restraints (there's a long list before this) and then you deescalate. You don't continue to press on the person afterwards.

Cop killed that dude. It was wrong.
 

Too swole to control

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ok I'm going to roll with the OP premise...

So he's having a medical problem, he's restrained, the cop has backup...so the cop exacerbates the medical problem and then I'm supposed to just be cool with that?

I have patients act crazy ALL the time. What do you do after you wrestle them down and have four people on each limb? You put them in restraints (there's a long list before this) and then you deescalate. You don't continue to press on the person afterwards.

Cop killed that dude. It was wrong.
Thank you for your service. does your stethoscope go under your bulletproof vest or on top?
 

megatherium

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At any rate, the world has lost a pretty good pornographic film actor and it's cause for sadness and reflection.
 

SongExotic2

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Whatever was said, whatever was in his system, whatever resistance there was -- it's all a red herring. The issue on the table occurred after he was in custody. Those six minutes or however long are the only thing that count here in terms of the murder crime that was committed other than whatever state of mind arguments Chauvin's attorney wants to make.

Had George Floyd lived, he could have answered in the criminal justice system for whatever occurred before, however he was supposed to answer. If he was saying he couldn't breathe before, that just means they should have maybe called in a paramedic or done it by the book, whatever that means in Minneapolis. If he resisted arrest, he should have been charged with that once he was safely in custody. Instead, the other crime took place.
You think the judge should take a point away for the illegal knee?