Not sure the point you're making but... 100% of nude right wing waffle house shooters use R-15 automatic rifles.
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That's an awful lot of biased assumptions all in one place.
My opinion is that (specifically regarding) the AR-15 manufacturers do not pull the weapon because 1) it's an admittance of sorts of the weapon being an issue (a low but potential probability) and 2) They don't want to lose earnings (the highest of probabilities).... They know their (seriously no pun intended) target demographic, the weapon is so hot button, that every time a event arises, and the "ban this weapon" gets stated, the AR/2A supporters go out and buy more of them. The manufacturer has no desire to find solutions to a possible "epidemic", they (as I suppose all corporations, from weapons, opiate pharm companies, and the guy who allowed those hoverboards that knowingly caught on fire) are only interested in earnings and keeping shareholders happy.
Or just maybe they don't pull the weapon because:
1. They see that it provides far more benefit to the overwhelming majority of owners than the admittedly terrible uses it is put to by a very tiny minority of people. They could honestly believe that there is no problem with the AR-15 and its variants, but rather just an anti-gun hysteria that demonizes the product rather than the insane and/or evil people who use it for murder.
2. They realize that it is one of the most popular models of firearms in the country for a reason: that is is very useful for a variety of uses and that the public has a right to purchase their product. The comparison to hoverboards is particularly illogical. They caught fire because of design or manufacturing defects. The fact that some whackjobs have used the AR-15 in mass shootings is a problem with those individuals, not the product. My own personal theory on why it has recently become the weapon of choice for crazies wanting to go out in a blaze of glory is that all the anti-AR-15 rhetoric in the press has given it magical deadly qualities in the eyes of much of the general public, so of course someone looking to commit a mass shooting to get on TV would pick the evil AR-15. That may be a good subject for some future study, but at the moment is just a theory that springs to mind. However, I do know enough about firearms to know that a Ruger mini-14, an old surplus M-1 carbine, or even a couple of nondescript handguns can do just as much damage in most situations if some guy is determined. The AR-15 is mostly vilified for cosmetic rather than functional reasons.
AR supporters- The gun is fun to shoot, no practical hunting or protection need for it, it's just fucking fun.
The AR-15 very much has practical hunting and protection uses. Whoever told you otherwise was lying.
Manufacturers/Gun Shops- It makes us BANK
So? Gun manufacturers and retailers tend to make and sell products based on demand. It is clear the public wants firearms based on the AR-15 platform. As mentioned, it is a very useful firearm for a variety of uses.
Politicians- We get money from the Manufacturer. The more they sell, the more we get, so EVERYONE can have one.
Or maybe, just maybe, some politicians actually believe in the Second Amendment and work to protect this basic civil right.
Edit: Double post for some reason.
"Gun violence" is an irrelevant statistic. As a Canadian you should know that better than anyone.
LOL now this shitty thread is about God
wtf are y'all doing?
wtf are y'all doing?
Anybody advocating for an unarmed public is just too much for me to even discuss...Guns don't kill people...it takes a finger to pull the trigger
Lot bigger issues in this cuntry
The U.S. has 5% of the world's population and yet 25% of the world's prisoners. We are the largest prison state on the planet.
Lot bigger issues in this cuntry
The U.S. has 5% of the world's population and yet 25% of the world's prisoners. We are the largest prison state on the planet.
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There was approx 2million times last year where guns were used to defend homes/lives property from criminals...that deserves to be part of the discussion
The hypocrisy of the chicken hawks is amazing-
The NRA said guns will be banned during a Pence speech. Parkland students see hypocrisy.
The National Rifle Association has championed the idea of “a good guy with a gun,” but no firearms will be allowed when Vice President Pence speaks at its annual meeting — sparking criticism from Parkland, Fla., students, who say schools should be afforded the same protection.
And in a rare occurrence, even some NRA supporters have voiced opposition to the prohibition.
Pence is scheduled to speak at the annual NRA gathering in Dallas on Friday, and many attendees will be packing guns, knives and other weapons for the event — which includes “more than 20 acres” of firearms exhibits expected to draw 80,000 members.
But the NRA said the U.S. Secret Service will coordinate security for the Pence speech and will not allow weapons in the arena while he is present.
“As a result, firearms and firearm accessories, knives or weapons of any kind will be prohibited in the forum prior to and during his attendance,” the NRA said. A detailed list of prohibited items includes ammunition, drones, gun parts, firearm magazines, as well as signs and glass containers.
With the exception of the Pence event, lawfully carried firearms will be permitted at the convention center and the host hotel, the NRA said, advising members to comply with federal, state and local laws.
The NRA is complying with laws that prohibit firearms from being brought into areas where Secret Service protectees visit, agency spokesman Shawn L. Holtzclaw told The Washington Post in a statement Sunday. That includes events in open-carry states such as Texas, he said.
“Individuals determined to be carrying firearms will not be allowed past a predetermined outer perimeter checkpoint, regardless of whether they possess a ticket to the event,” Holtzclaw said.
Attendees were similarly restricted from carrying weapons during President Trump’s speech to the NRA in Atlanta last year.
The NRA, bolstered by Trump, has been a vocal proponent of allowing more guns in public places, including schools, but the exception for the convention has raised eyebrows and prompted skepticism among students and at least one parent who lost his child in the Feb. 14 shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., in which 17 people were killed and others injured.
“On so many levels, this is enlightening. According to the NRA, we should want everyone to have weapons when we are in public,” Fred Guttenberg, father of slain Parkland student Jaime Guttenberg, said Sunday on Twitter. “But when they put on a convention, the weapons are a concern? I thought giving everyone a gun was to enhance safety. Am I missing something?”
The NRA did not respond to a request for comment.
Matt Deitsch, who graduated from the Parkland school in 2016 and is the chief strategist for the March for Our Lives protest, expressed similar skepticism.
“You’re telling me to make the VP safe there aren’t any weapons around but when it comes to children they want guns everywhere? Can someone explain this to me?” Deitsch said Saturday on Twitter. “Because it sounds like the NRA wants to protect people who help them sell guns, not kids.”
March for Our Lives did not respond to a request for comment.
Parkland student Cameron Kasky said Saturday on Twitter: “The NRA has evolved into such a hilarious parody of itself.” David Hogg, a Parkland student, circulated a petition on Sunday calling on Pence to cancel his NRA appearance.
Some gun enthusiasts and apparent NRA members are displeased at the prohibition. At Texas CHL Forum, a message board for gun owners, commenters aired their frustrations.
“Obviously even republicans and so called leaders don’t trust the ‘good guys.’ I realize it’s the VP, but still makes our whole argument look foolish,” a commenter who self-identified as an NRA member said Thursday.
“You may disagree … but in my opinion the very people that claim to protect the 2A should never host an event that requires disarming the good guys. Sad. No excuses for this … it makes us look stupid,” the commenter said.
Another self-identified NRA member agreed, saying Friday: “Me personally, I won’t be listening to him speak. I won’t be going anywhere that I cant carry my firearm. It’s essentially the nations largest get together for gun owners and they won’t let law abiding legal gun owners carry guns because someone who’s supposedly pro 2A thinks its too ‘dangerous’? thats liberal logic right there.”
Other users chimed in, saying the Secret Service is simply carrying out the law.
“Look at it this way, imagine what a prime opportunity it would be for some rabid gun hater to take a pot shot at the VP AT the NRA Annual Convention,” one commenter who self-identified as an NRA instructor said Saturday. “The campaign ads would write themselves.”
The NRA said guns will be banned during a Pence speech. Parkland students see hypocrisy.
The National Rifle Association has championed the idea of “a good guy with a gun,” but no firearms will be allowed when Vice President Pence speaks at its annual meeting — sparking criticism from Parkland, Fla., students, who say schools should be afforded the same protection.
And in a rare occurrence, even some NRA supporters have voiced opposition to the prohibition.
Pence is scheduled to speak at the annual NRA gathering in Dallas on Friday, and many attendees will be packing guns, knives and other weapons for the event — which includes “more than 20 acres” of firearms exhibits expected to draw 80,000 members.
But the NRA said the U.S. Secret Service will coordinate security for the Pence speech and will not allow weapons in the arena while he is present.
“As a result, firearms and firearm accessories, knives or weapons of any kind will be prohibited in the forum prior to and during his attendance,” the NRA said. A detailed list of prohibited items includes ammunition, drones, gun parts, firearm magazines, as well as signs and glass containers.
With the exception of the Pence event, lawfully carried firearms will be permitted at the convention center and the host hotel, the NRA said, advising members to comply with federal, state and local laws.
The NRA is complying with laws that prohibit firearms from being brought into areas where Secret Service protectees visit, agency spokesman Shawn L. Holtzclaw told The Washington Post in a statement Sunday. That includes events in open-carry states such as Texas, he said.
“Individuals determined to be carrying firearms will not be allowed past a predetermined outer perimeter checkpoint, regardless of whether they possess a ticket to the event,” Holtzclaw said.
Attendees were similarly restricted from carrying weapons during President Trump’s speech to the NRA in Atlanta last year.
The NRA, bolstered by Trump, has been a vocal proponent of allowing more guns in public places, including schools, but the exception for the convention has raised eyebrows and prompted skepticism among students and at least one parent who lost his child in the Feb. 14 shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., in which 17 people were killed and others injured.
“On so many levels, this is enlightening. According to the NRA, we should want everyone to have weapons when we are in public,” Fred Guttenberg, father of slain Parkland student Jaime Guttenberg, said Sunday on Twitter. “But when they put on a convention, the weapons are a concern? I thought giving everyone a gun was to enhance safety. Am I missing something?”
The NRA did not respond to a request for comment.
Matt Deitsch, who graduated from the Parkland school in 2016 and is the chief strategist for the March for Our Lives protest, expressed similar skepticism.
“You’re telling me to make the VP safe there aren’t any weapons around but when it comes to children they want guns everywhere? Can someone explain this to me?” Deitsch said Saturday on Twitter. “Because it sounds like the NRA wants to protect people who help them sell guns, not kids.”
March for Our Lives did not respond to a request for comment.
Parkland student Cameron Kasky said Saturday on Twitter: “The NRA has evolved into such a hilarious parody of itself.” David Hogg, a Parkland student, circulated a petition on Sunday calling on Pence to cancel his NRA appearance.
Some gun enthusiasts and apparent NRA members are displeased at the prohibition. At Texas CHL Forum, a message board for gun owners, commenters aired their frustrations.
“Obviously even republicans and so called leaders don’t trust the ‘good guys.’ I realize it’s the VP, but still makes our whole argument look foolish,” a commenter who self-identified as an NRA member said Thursday.
“You may disagree … but in my opinion the very people that claim to protect the 2A should never host an event that requires disarming the good guys. Sad. No excuses for this … it makes us look stupid,” the commenter said.
Another self-identified NRA member agreed, saying Friday: “Me personally, I won’t be listening to him speak. I won’t be going anywhere that I cant carry my firearm. It’s essentially the nations largest get together for gun owners and they won’t let law abiding legal gun owners carry guns because someone who’s supposedly pro 2A thinks its too ‘dangerous’? thats liberal logic right there.”
Other users chimed in, saying the Secret Service is simply carrying out the law.
“Look at it this way, imagine what a prime opportunity it would be for some rabid gun hater to take a pot shot at the VP AT the NRA Annual Convention,” one commenter who self-identified as an NRA instructor said Saturday. “The campaign ads would write themselves.”
you get that it's the Secret Service that's implementing the policy, right?
There are shitloads of armed people walking around the convention, and no gun violence. It's only as a precautionary measure for the POTUS/VP that no firearms are allowed when they're speaking.
Another (R) hypociry.
Thsi is the Waffle Hosue shooter hero.
Nary a peep or a tweet from President gun nut.
http://www.kron4.com/news/national/...se-shooter-raises-171k-for-victims/1146512110
I bet if he had to go through that again, he'd prefer to have a firearm.
But it does give me a sads that doophus can't even acknowledge the heroism of Shaw...not that I'm surprised.
Or China with their knife violence.
Knifeman kills nine students in China
"A man suspected of carrying out the attack is alleged to be a former student taking revenge for having been bullied at the school."
I say ban all knives, and ban all vans. Shit's getting crazy.
