Wilder vs Fury- Who won?

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  1. Andrewsimar Palhardass

    Andrewsimar Palhardass My balls was hot

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    I see a lot of talk surrounding the judging of this fight, with much of it surrounding the idea of how a boxing fight is judged. Wilder dropped Fury twice, with one being a devastating (almost) KO in the 12th and final round. Many point out that if this were a real fight, Wilder would have won.
    1. My opinion is that Fury won the boxing match. That’s what it was, after all. This was not a no-holds-barred match meant to simulate a real fight in the streets. Boxing is not a simulation of a real fight. Boxing is a sport where men fight under a specified, agreed-upon set of rules, none of which allude to the idea that we should judge it as if we are watching a street fight.


    Fuck my opinion, though. Who did you think won the fight, under your interpretation? Feel free to say why in the comments. I’m hammered so I’ll add that I love you guys.
     
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  2. Andrewsimar Palhardass

    Andrewsimar Palhardass My balls was hot

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    EDIT: meant to add a poll to this, but failed to because I’m an intoxicated nincompoop. @Wild@Wild @Splinty@Splinty is it possible to add one after the fact? Please save me from my dumbassery.
     
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  3. Zeph

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    Fury easily won that, but Boxing is still as corrupt as ever.
     
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    lol agreed
     
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    I don't follow boxing very closely, but I have common sense. This is NOT a street fight, so talking about what would happen if it was is no better than talking about who would have won if this was a hopscotch contest. Irrelevant.

    Fury was knocked down twice. Those rounds go to WIlder as 10-8s. That would be two rounds he won out of 12. I guess he snagged one other round as well, so that is three.

    How does that give him the win?
     
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  6. madmav

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    fury looked good..
     
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    I had Fury all day
     
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    I thought this was for a fantasy fight involving Gene Wilder.

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    I've rematched the fight this morning. I still don't know how fury got up. But then I member he is 6"9 and it all makes sense. He's probably related to the undertaker and Kane
     
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  10. Onetrickpony

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    With the way he poppped back up it looked like fury just lay down for a quick nap.

     
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    I gave Wilder 3 10-9's & a 10-8

    One 10-9 was a 10-8, but it was a weak knockdown and Fury won the rest back.

    The 10-8 was a 10-7 because he was KTFO. But, somehow won the rest.
    I've never seen that, ever.
    Not on the street, not in NHB/MMA, Muay Thai, boxing, anywhere.
    I don't think even a movie.
    Maybe a cartoon?

    That man was in another galaxy, and his spirit re-entered his body and puppet-stringed him up, and he won the rest of that round, even stunning Wilder and stealing his soul.
    Then acted like it didn't happen, like, it was erased from the fight.
    Raises his arms in victory.
    Just unreal.

    I'm still coming to terms with it.

    115-111 Wilder corrupt AF. 114-110...OK.
    DRAW??
    I normally wouldn't be upset because I'm a purist, and would think 'if this was a real fight, Fury just got laid out, then likely head stomped'.
    But it's not, it's boxing, with a specific ruleset.
    And at the end of the fight, it was Wilder's soul that was taken, in a fight Fury controlled throughout.

    I can't even say "did you see that fight?", or "that was a must-see fight".
    That was a boxing match with a supernatural event.

    There are people that stopped drinking last night in sin city and went to church after seeing that.
     
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    Fury won 115-111.

    It really wasn't a difficult fight to score.
     
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    Strange.
    I remember scoring the first three rounds for Fury, the 4th for Wilder, 5th for Fury.
    Seems the only thing anyone agrees on are the 2 10-8's, and that Alejandro Roche was watching an entirely different fight.
     
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    Chief among those built-in cheats is the process by which judges (and officials) are selected. The process is boxing’s dirty little secret, seldom the focus of any boxing media attention, but every bit as important as the ubiquitous pre-fight tales of the tape. The reality behind how boxing handles its own judging and officiating would make boxing outsiders wonder how such things could still be going on, especially in a sport where death is, literally, a possible outcome.

    Boxing’s Dirty Little Secret
     
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    We kinda discussed this in the other thread but to add my fucked opinion
    I think Tyson clearly won the boxing match but also lost more brain cells to
    Wilder. lol
     
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    I didn’t watch it but wilder won
     
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    You get fucked you old pussy
     
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  24. MovinOn

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    Props to Fury for the brilliant technical boxing exhibition and for getting up from a BOMB in the 12th. Yes, the judge who scored it 115-111 Wilder is incompetent, corrupt or both.

    BUT, that count from the referee was delayed and was pretty darn slow. The best concrete evidence I've see of that is below. The 10 seconds to get up turns into 20. Watch the digital counter beneath the clip.


     
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    Yeah the ref count in general is some outdated bullshit. They should
    switch to a dam stop watch so the count is always applied fairly and
    accurately
     
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