Would you like to use cage weight along with weightclasses?

[SensoriaUtopia]

I think it would be great to have a cage weight limit. I also think an added weightclass or more would be good but that is a seperate discussion. I think a cage weight limit stops the guys who abuse the system. Like Tibeau make make 155, but that guy probably weighs 183 in the cage the next day. Rumble at 170 was doing this. He was making 170, then coming in at 200-205 in the cage the next day and looking 2 weightclasses bigger than guys he was fighting. The actual number I am flexible on but I think it should go kind of like this.


125 cage weight limit is 139. first level offense is 140-142, 143 and above is a second level offense
135 cage weight limit is 150, first level offense is 151-154, 155 and above is a second level offense
145 cage weight limit is 161, first level offense is 162-165, 166 and above is a second level offense
155 cage weight limit is 173, first level offense is 174-177, 178 and above is a second level offense
170 cage weight limit is 190, first level offense is 191-195, 196 and above is a second level offense
185 cage weight limit is 207, first level offense is 208-212, 213 and above is a second level offense
205 cage weight limit is 230, first level offense is 231-235, 236 and above is a second level offense
206 and up, cage weight limit is none



I also am not so hardcore about 205 having to have a cage limit weight. I think it would be good but not essential, but I think for 185 and below it is essential right now. This would force guys to not bloat themselves in between camps and in the early part of camp, meaning their weightcut goes healthier for them. Besides elimating guys abusing the weight cut system I think this is a healthier way for fighters overall, especially long term health.

Now, if a guy misses weight but is in the range of first level offense, then he gives 20-25% of his purse to the other guy. So if he misses the offical weight cut, and gives 20% from that, well then he is now giving just about half his purse, but if the guy made the offical weight but it simply a first level offense on the cage weight aspect the next day, then he is "only" giving 20-25% of his purse to the other guy. Now if the guy is a 2nd level offense on the cage weight aspect the next day then he is giving 50% of his purse to the other guy, and if he misses offical weight also, you would add in that 20% meaning he is giving 70% of his overall purse to the other. This way the fight goes on, the fans win and the guys get to fight, but this cage weight caveat would force them to not abuse the weight cutting system and the guys would be healthier, and fresher going into the fights.

 

[lookoutawhale]

its an interesting idea.

I would like to see the current cage weight at the moment as a stat so we can see the disparity.

They do that in boxing in some fights ive seen. In the tale of the tape they list their weight at the weigh ins and then their weight today.

be neat to see that in mma. because it is an advantage. weight cutting and putting on is a skill in itself.

 

[Zeph]

It seems like to me that if you are going to introduce something, it should have the aim of removing weight cutting altogether, rather than introducing limitations to it. Hydration tests, where guys get fined 30% of their post if the fail it will stop people cutting water weight to a dangerous amount. No one is going to willingly give up 30% of their purse for a slight weight advantage. A lot of guys cut weight because they have to to stay competitive, not because they want to and once you remove the conception that without cutting they will be at a disadvantage, I think you'll see a culture shift away from Ultimate Weight cutting to guys fighting at their natural weight.

 

[D241]

This thread was a lot more complicated and thought out than I thought. I thought it'd be about just listing a fighter's cage weight after cutting, but this is far more advanced. Let me sit on it for a minute....

 

[Shy Guy]

I would like to see something like this but with it being such a new concept, guys would be missing cage weight left and right in the beginning. Fighters already have a hard time making weight so to have to gauge how much weight they can gain after the fight would make it more difficult. I am all for weight cutting reform and wouldn't be opposed to something like this so I'm just playing devils advocate.

 

[La Paix]

I'd like for anything in this direction to start by posting the cage weight on the tale of the tape before the fight starts. This could let the fans know who does what and then see how many and much weight is being cut. Once the facts are public I think it would be a better time to implement changes at that point. I'm always a fan of fighting within 5-8% or so of you natural weight. I feel it would be a healthy option and guys could focus much more of actual fighting improvements and not have to deal with any added stress or pressure coming into a fight.

 

[SensoriaUtopia]

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[D241]

Resonate

how did you get invited so soon before your true identity was known?

 

[teamquestnorth]

how did you get invited so soon before your true identity was known?

OP is a solid poster. Plus he likes making PayPal bets and always pays up. I laughed when I find out he was NPD cause I had I had been making bets with him for like 2 weeks strait and had no idea lol.

 

[nni]

I thought this was going to be about the weight of the cage in relation to the fighters .