X-Men: Dark Phoenix

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  1. Kneeblock

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    Going to see it against my better judgement. It's probably the worst reviewed film I've seen in the last several years, but I need the closure to the X-cinematic universe. Will give my review once I come out.

    It can't be worse than X3. Can it?
     
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  2. RaginCajun

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    Heard it was enjoyable but not great. Let us know if it is worth a watch after.

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  3. Ryann Von Doom

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    Garbage, go support Godzilla King of the Monsters instead.
     
  4. Nemo?

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    it's good but not great......a few power plot holes(how some characters use their powers from one situation to the next). But not horrible.

    Dark phoenix and really x-men in general is made for a tv series not movies. Too many characters to fill out unless you go the avengers route and flesh them out in their own movies then bring them together.

    6.5/10 nemo's.
     
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  5. Kneeblock

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    So I liked it despite its horrible horrible flaws. It was cheesy, trite, and overwrought, but in a way, that's what I liked about it. Unlike Avengers or Justice League, which mostly are about what would happen if you put all these super powerful characters in a room, X-Men is largely about family and melodrama. This film was cornily melodramatic, like all of its predecessors, but just less skillfully executed. Still, they nailed the melodrama of the Phoenix saga, albeit without turning Jean into a dominatrix like in the original story. There's also something palpable lost in the absence of Wolverine and his relationship with Jean. But for the first time in this entire series of films, Cyclops came across as likeable at least.

    Chris Claremont, in hindsight, wasn't always the greatest writer on Earth, but he did make the comic X-Men seem like they were in a quirky opera. This film gave us some of that feeling even if several characters sounded a little off. Fassbender's Magneto is still the gem to the point where he looks like he was brought to life right out of a Jim Lee drawing. Beast gets some quality shine as well and did everything short of saying "oh my stars and garters."

    Overall, this film is probably about a 11/20 on a normal movie scale. On the superhero scale, it's probably a 13/20. I feel critics have judged it against Avengers which isn't really fair because they're sort of different genres that both happen to feature super powered beings. I have such a soft spot for the X-Men that I'm likely to be more charitable to them. I didn't even hate Apocalypse or Days of Future Past. This was definitely better than X3 and more in line with the way the X-Men have been presented in the comics over the past 15 years. Charles has made mistakes, powerful mutants are out of control, Magneto is just willing to push things all the way, government is suspicious, but somewhat rightfully so, Nitecrawler is the heart and soul and has qualms about breaking his moral code despite being pushed, Beast is torn between smarts and savagery, and Storm is...well, kinda wasted, but we see hints that she's an important leader (someday). This was my X-Men I grew up with, albeit written by a fair to middling writer, which has been the case a lot. Like a Scott Lobdell story arc (though in fairness to him, he's much better today than he was in the 90s).

    See it at a matinee or on Netflix later or with some other X-fans who you can grouse about the departures from Canon with later. Then go watch the Animated series and how they did Dark Phoenix to get the best rendition.
     
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  6. Nemo?

    Nemo? Too weird to live, too rare to die.

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    I would have preferred if Beast broke out 1 cheesy line for old time's sake.

    Hopefully Disney is smart and makes x-men into a TV series with comic accurate story lines meaning we get to see the true first x-men and them being lost etc, really and truly it would be a powerful reminder of all the huge social topics they cover too.

    Also need's more Gambit.
     
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  7. sparkuri

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    Thanks guys, I'll go check it out.
    I was never into X-men as a kid, but liked X1, loved X2, & was there opening day for X3. It's turned out to be my favorite Marvel group. As critical as I've been about this one or that one, I can still pop any one of them in the player and be entertained.
     
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