LOL! That's fucking funny!The Fertitas seem to have as much charisma as I do money
Great one liner!
LOL! That's fucking funny!The Fertitas seem to have as much charisma as I do money
I say that as a bare minimum. Look at what Coker did with Strikeforce while they were on a premium channel. I could imagine bellator going much further than Strikeforce did. With af, Coker started from scratch. With bellator, Coker started with a mess(which is indicated by how many cuts he made and how they cut the amount of shows down to 16 last year.)See, that's fine. If Bellator wants to bring checks and balances to MMA negotiations for free agents, great. But that's pretty much where they fit. They are the Arena League or the CFL is my point and while those leagues aren't going away, they aren't exactly threatening the NFL either.
I wouldn't put a huge corporation, Viacom, passed something like that. I honestly don't care tho. All I care about is for bellator and mma to prosper.Link to lawsuit please.
I posted this in a UFC hate thread a while back. The UFC isn't perfect and neither is anybody else.Link to lawsuit please.
Listen I totally hope so I love bellator and want the best for them.The typical UFC show wasn't always what it is now. Go back and watch some old shows.
This is just a glimpse of where Bellator is headed.
The UFC knew what they were doing when they bough Strikeforce out. They couldn't afford not too. Heading for fox would have left spike wide open for Strikeforce. Having Strikeforce on showtime and spike would have been an absolute power play on their part. Not to mention they were already having events on network tv( wanna say nbc but don't quote me).Will they ever be on par with the UFC? Or surpass the UFC? I doubt it. If so, it will take another 7-10 years. BUT....with this Reebok disaster, the lawsuit, and more & more disgruntled fighters testing free agency. Now is their time to close the gap considerably, and I think they will. I expect them to sign Sterling & Mitrione. I wont be shocked if they sign Overeem & Bendo either. They have Pico, Ruth, Fortune in development. They have young, exciting guys that are right there on the cusp of becoming household names/stars, in Page & Straus.
It is going to be interesting to see how this plays out, because here's the thing. Scott Coker is a more intelligent, business savvy, likable promoter than Dana White or Lorenzo Fertitta will ever be. He's proven that he can build a promotion and develop talent. Strikforce's roster was SICK when you look back now at who they had. Imagine if Silicon Valley Entertainment hadn't sold & Coker was able to build on what he had created for another 5-6-7 years. We might be saying that Strikeforce is on par with the UFC right now.
So, it's OK to consistently fuck people over because the UFC isn't perfect and "neither is anybody else"?I posted this in a UFC hate thread a while back. The UFC isn't perfect and neither is anybody else.
http://mmapayout.com/2015/07/viacom-sued-by-early-investor-in-bellator-mma/
Mother of God she is sexy.
Nah, they're just great at making it seem that way.A UFC title in today's age means that you are definitively the best fighter in the world at your weight class.
That actually kinda supports my idea, because Strikeforce no longer exists. Those guys are now in the UFC, because that's where the best in the world go. I didn't say that the UFC has always had the best fighters throughout its history. It absolutely does now though.Nah, they're just great at making it seem that way.
Years ago I would have taken Jacare or Rockhold over Anderson when they were ruling Steikeforce and he was ruling the UFC and would have been laughed at.
Eddie Alvarez just beat the Strikeforce LW champ, then beat the former WEC/UFC LW champ for an encore.
Former Strikeforce guys have every belt from WW up.
Before she signed up, everyone was very quick to dismiss Holm as a legit threat to Rousey. We saw how that played out.
No, they were always that good- some people just didn't finally believe it until now.We found out how good Rockhold, Jacare and Eddie really are by watching them go to the place where the best in the world are. We would not have gotten those matchups had Strikeforce stayed intact. It would have just been speculation forever.
Because of the UFC's dominance, we routinely see the best vs the best, which is something that wouldn't exist if a rival organization caught up.
I never said they weren't that good. I said it the way I said it for a reason. We found out how good they are, outside of speculation, because they finally fought in the UFC.No, they were always that good- some people just didn't finally believe it until now.
And if the UFC wasn't such a dick about co-promoting, we would have never had to wonder if their champions could beat the guys from Pride or Strikeforce or WEC. Thankfully Coker has proven to be a little more open minded about that.
Some good points.I honestly think any "yes" answers in this are wishful thinking. I also think that we wouldn't like it as much as we think we would if UFC lost a bit of their monopoly. A UFC title in today's age means that you are definitively the best fighter in the world at your weight class. That won't be the case anymore if other organizations catch up. MMA titles will be like boxing titles- borderline meaningless. I don't think that would be good for the sport. Competition will make the fighters get paid more, and that would be good for the sport, but there can be competition while UFC stays the big dog so the title holds its weight.
So what?MMA titles will be like boxing titles- borderline meaningless.
Things change.I didn't say that the UFC has always had the best fighters throughout its history. It absolutely does now though.
See, that's where we disagree. I want that to happen, I just don't think we'll see it get to that point.I say that as a bare minimum. Look at what Coker did with Strikeforce while they were on a premium channel. I could imagine bellator going much further than Strikeforce did. With af, Coker started from scratch. With bellator, Coker started with a mess(which is indicated by how many cuts he made and how they cut the amount of shows down to 16 last year.)
Bellator, under Coker, is making all the right moves to establish itself before they make gigantic power plays.with the connections bellator is making in the Asian market, I could actually see them beating the UFC over there. They are going international. They are co promoting, and there are rumors about them possibly getting Overeem, bendo, and sterling.
They also have prospects making their debuts later this year one next year. Bellator has all the tools to become the wcw to UFCs wwe. They could be the showtime to UFCs HBO boxing.
Idk if they will ever be number one, but I can see competition getting stiff as fuck in a couple of years.
Coker needs to be more open-minded about that. His best bet is to do all the things Zuffa has jettisoned - like in-cage sponsorships, co-promotion, etc. - because the fans demand it and there's money to be made by doing it and, right now, Zuffa isn't filling that void in the marketplace.No, they were always that good- some people just didn't finally believe it until now.
And if the UFC wasn't such a dick about co-promoting, we would have never had to wonder if their champions could beat the guys from Pride or Strikeforce or WEC. Thankfully Coker has proven to be a little more open minded about that.