Ok let me offer my perspective and I believe I have shared some of my background with
@Wild . Without spilling a bunch of personal info for obvious reasons (white knighting) I'm going to attempt to explain why I can understand danas (my pro Dana/zuffa position will be completely different than yours) point of view on an extremely minute scale. And why my personal position is anti zuffa leaning, but not entirely.
Let me preface this by making it very clear that I am not wealthy, I do not come from money and I am just your average joe.... I'll try to be brief.
I began a business with my wife not long ago. We had good credit, we got a loan from a bank and made it happen. It started out rocky. Undercapitalized. We struggled immensely. We thought about closing up several times. Let me just tell you that when you drive by a business that was once there and is now gone, those owners more than likely went thru a world of shit that no one will ever know about and will be climbing out of a deep hole for a good while. It isn't as cut and dry as it seems.
Luckily we made it past our dark times and began to turn a profit. We made a livable wage and that's about it. We've recently sold it and moved on to other things.
During our tenure we dealt with a lot of b.s. Behind the scenes. A lot. I could spend all week describing it, but unless you've lived it, it would only be words on a page. Among the things we dealt with were hecklers, naysayers, haters, and trolls. they used to be a thorn in my side because they simply couldn't relate to what we were dealing with at the time. It took someone less than 5 minutes to write something careless and untrue, let me emphasize untrue, to sway public opinion. Some were high school kids with nothing better to do and some were obviously competitors. We very well could have lost a good bit of income from it. Mind you we weren't rich and we have kids and we need every dollar for living expenses for my kids, my wife and I.
There were also several instances where people, strangers, and even family would give me advise on what I should do, and how I should run my business. I listened, and it got me nowhere. After I learned the game, knew the ins and outs of my business better than anyone can imagine, I stopped listening and did what I knew needed to be done and it always worked because like I said, I know my business very well. I live it 70 hrs a week and I take it very seriously.
A lot of times people would take offense to that or get hurt or whatever because I would brush off their ideas. Why? It's not their money. It's not their business or reputation on the line. They won't have to live with the consequences, simply do this, get money fuck bitches retire early. Yeah, ok. You go ahead and take out a loan with your own credit on the line and your own collateral your willing to give up if it doesn't work out. Please be my guest....
It was a real eye opener because prior to opening the business I wouldn't think anything of these things. Now having lived on the other side of the fence, I get it. I also have a new and more accurate view of capitalism. And when I see others trying to make it I respect the struggle now more than ever. Now before everyone goes calling me a hippocrate, let me finish......
@crowbar or anything, but 17-18 years is a decent amount of time. 
@Greenbean.
