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Truck Party

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Over-simplified and caricatured 'paraphrasing' can make anyone's views look absurd.

You don't know me brah.
Back on topic, I must confess I don't know much about this Turkey guy at all... this is the first I've really seen/heard him. What makes people say he's a brutal dictator? How long has he been in power, etc?
could be, or it could be that your views are simply absurd

you seem to be in the dark on many things, but have done more than your part to fill up 15 pages with your views on Jews' extremism, etc. What made Jews such a topic of interest for you?
 
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Not a thread about 'jews', its a thread about a MAJOR HISTORICAL CURRENT EVENT that just took place. You know, like how when something really newsworthy happens, people like to learn about it and discuss and research and share/challenge each others views in order to better everyone's understanding.

The point is to share and learn, we are all wired with misinformed opinions etc, must all rely on each other to fill in missing pieces. Hard to discuss, share, debate, or learn anything about it however when some folk keep getting upset and twisting it into something else.

I could oversimplify your posts too, but I think that would be shitty.

If you like you can let us know exactly what specific opinion on this subject you find acceptable and not absurd, and we'll see if the mods can make it a rule or something that everyone has to stick to that.
 

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could be, or it could be that your views are simply absurd

you seem to be in the dark on many things, but have done more than your part to fill up 15 pages with your views on Jews' extremism, etc. What made Jews such a topic of interest for you?
I for one find it fascinating that 2% of the American population have attained the amount of power they have. Ashkenazi Jews have a median IQ of 115 that sure makes a difference.
 
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You don't say? lol

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I don't hate anyone but have no problem admitting I have some issues with specific Israeli state policies, as I would with any other group or country that was doing the same things. Just find this whole issue fascinating historically, religiously, politically and existentially
 
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Truck Party

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Not a thread about 'jews', its a thread about a MAJOR HISTORICAL CURRENT EVENT that just took place. You know, like how when something really newsworthy happens, people like to learn about it and discuss and research and share/challenge each others views in order to better everyone's understanding.

The point is to share and learn, we are all wired with misinformed opinions etc, must all rely on each other to fill in missing pieces. Hard to discuss, share, debate, or learn anything about it however when some folk keep getting upset and twisting it into something else.

I could oversimplify your posts too, but I think that would be shitty.

If you like you can let us know exactly what specific opinion on this subject you find acceptable and not absurd, and we'll see if the mods can make it a rule or something that everyone has to stick to that.
so the 15 pages have simply been a debate on the historical roots of Jerusalem?
 
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^ what?

no, man its about the recent announcement to make Jerusalem the official Capitol of Israel, & possibly seizing the Dome of the Rock

you keep pulling it back to something else

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I for one find it fascinating that 2% of the American population have attained the amount of power they have. Ashkenazi Jews have a median IQ of 115 that sure makes a difference.
You can find many societies who've had similar success that Jews have had in America. Asians in America have had similar success, though they've largely chosen different professions, that Jews have had. Armenians in the Ottoman Empire were very similar, Lebanese in many countries, Chinese in southeast Asia, etc. A culture that focuses on family, education & frugality seems to always lead to outsized success for them, & hatred & suspicion from much of the rest of the populace
 

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You can find many societies who've had similar success that Jews have had in America. Asians in America have had similar success, though they've largely chosen different professions, that Jews have had. Armenians in the Ottoman Empire were very similar, Lebanese in many countries, Chinese in southeast Asia, etc. A culture that focuses on family, education & frugality seems to always lead to outsized success for them, & hatred & suspicion from much of the rest of the populace
Now we're going places. What I find interesting about this is that those same values are constantly undermined by the group that chooses to embrace those values for itself.
 

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more about the coming Muslim holocaust committed by Jews
Guess it's a matter of perspective, I for one generally prefer Jewish people over Muslims. My family has both and I guess I am technically Jewish though not raised in the faith.
 

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Guess it's a matter of perspective, I for one generally prefer Jewish people over Muslims. My family has both and I guess I am technically Jewish though not raised in the faith.
it's not really about who I'd prefer, my mom's Jewish & I find her & the extended family wicked annoying. I was simply curious how a guy who seems to spend a lot of time researching middle eastern affairs, says those that don't understand Zionist history need to shut up & listen more & that Israel is now in full extermination mode, would never have even heard of a dictator in the region who wants to send an army of jihadists into Europe & even call said dictator's speech 'heavy.' Doesn't quite make sense
 

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it's not really about who I'd prefer, my mom's Jewish & I find her & the extended family wicked annoying. I was simply curious how a guy who seems to spend a lot of time researching middle eastern affairs, says those that don't understand Zionist history need to shut up & listen more & that Israel is now in full extermination mode, would never have even heard of a dictator in the region who wants to send an army of jihadists into Europe & even call said dictator's speech 'heavy.' Doesn't quite make sense
Masato Toys @Masato Toys is a cool cat. Erdogan is not that interesting, typical Turkish strong man. You should check out the pipeline plans though. Funny thing is I reckon oil will be made obsolete soon enough.
 
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I'm glad that Trump did this.
ooh, interesting..!

Why? I am also seeing a lot of Christians jubilant over this, there are so many ways to look at it

Always respect your views, Redneck if you could elaborate that would be great
 

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so to paraphrase you in this thread: you think Israel is full of extremist, genocidal maniacs & now you want us to listen to a brutal dictator to back you up on your claims
He want that Ottoman land back. Not to mention, Hitler probably got the genocide idea from Turkey.
 
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I was simply curious how a guy who seems to spend a lot of time researching middle eastern affairs, says those that don't understand Zionist history need to shut up & listen more & that Israel is now in full extermination mode, would never have even heard of a dictator in the region who wants to send an army of jihadists into Europe & even call said dictator's speech 'heavy.' Doesn't quite make sense
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1. Zionist history is absolutely relevant/important to the issue.
2. 'Palestine' as we know it is absolutely being rhetorically threatened by this event. ('full extermination mode' I will admit may have been too much) :D
3. That speech WAS heavy, lol

4. There is plenty of things about the region I still don't know about, Turkish leader included. Can anyone claim to be up on everything/everyone going on over there? (why I forum about these things).


Are any of these really so shocking or not sensible?
 

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1. Zionist history is absolutely relevant/important to the issue.
2. 'Palestine' as we know it is absolutely being rhetorically exterminated/threatened by this event. 'full extermination mode' I will admit may have been too much :D
3. That speech WAS heavy, lol

4. There is plenty of things about the region I still don't know about, Turkish leader included. Can anyone claim to be up on everything/everyone going on over there? (why I forum about these things).


Are any of these really so shocking or not sensible?
Check yourself. Look up Erdogan.