This particular Federal Liberal gov't and the Ontario Provincial Liberal gov't are terrible and will set both Ontario and the Country back years and put us so far into debt your children will be dealing with the costs down the road.
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Yes that is what I said.
These programs aren't offered to them, they are using a loophole in the program to apply for the program and That's why it had to be amended that they can't unless the locations meet specific labor shortage restrictions.
and your statements were to "counter" my statement that it wasn't wide spread in Ontario. You also left out where you backed of it being "Toronto" and actually meant "North York"
Well I haven't been to every location in Toronto but everywhere I have It's been almost all tfw of pinoys ancestry.
It's nice to see you picking at irrelavent details because you lost the argument completely.
Whether or not they continue to employ tfw, they should be paying their employees more tfw included. F-Restaurant Brands. Now they will only be able to build 450 Tim Horton's next year instead of 500 boo boo for them.
You also don't know that every Filipino is a TFW. Do you have any current stats to support any of your claims?
Actually, what people say during conversations are relevant details.
In this case they are absolutely right to raise minimum wage.
You're better than this Vutu.
I see that you have completely abandoned your argument that tfw are great for franchise restaurants as is keeping minimum wage down to 11.60 for arguing about whether every single Toronto Tim Horton's is full of Filipinos. From arguing a terrible point to Full shit posting.
Revert to name calling and may be people won't notice you have no point.
I never said either of those things. Swing and a miss.
That was your argument, not mine.
Got any stats at all, or you just shit posting as usual?
What stats?
I can't believe you are still going on because your position has been disaproved.
Oh maybe I can still back her into a corner if she can't come up with stats about every time Horton's in Toronto being full of Filipinos! Yes that's right, let me reclaim my man hood by shit posting!
Just give it up Jacob.
Well, your major city TFW exploitation argument kind of falls apart in the face of low unemployment rates in Toronto and Ottawa. So I'm wondering where you get this idea from and if you have any proof to support it.
We're not specifically talking about how many tfw are working in toronto Tim hortons. You're using a anecdotal comment said in passing and completely ignoring the topic of the thread because your position on that has already been disproved. Why not just let things be like a man instead of coming back with shit posts that aren't very important to reprieve your ego? We're talking about minimum wage increases and a major low cost restaurants chain's method of dealing with rising wages.
Never once did I say they were exploiting Tfw, I said they were abusing the program. The fact that the government says so and reformed it to stop low cost restaurants from using the program should be proof enough.
New temporary foreign worker rules expected to include higher wages
So not only do you have nothing to support your TFW strawman, but you also haven't read the thread? Very nice work.
I have never wanted to tell anyone to take a hike more than you.
Go read the article.
I did. I also read the article that preceded it the day before. I also read the articles all summer where small business owners begged the premiere not to raise wages by a substantial amount overnight. I also read the articles where the premiere said they would find ways to deal with it. I've also read articles where small non-franchise businesses are also cutting benefits, hours, and wages to compensate for the wage increases they can't afford. It turns out when they found ways to deal with it that weren't just throwing money at their employees it's because they're actually "bullies".
Ok It's a perfectly fine argument to say I'm fine with cutting benefits. I'm not even arguing with that. I'm more or less telling why I'm fine with raising minimum wage and It's ever so perfectly fitting to use Tim Horton's as an example.
Why you be fine with people going to college, getting degrees and then having the gains that they worked so hard for pulled out from under them?
her Dad loved her, and together they watched "Over The Top" many times.
Not sure what you mean? Who is having gains pulled ? If you mean the parent company of Tim Horton's then those gains aren't justified anyway because it completely depended on tfw keeping the minimum wage low.
In a broad sense, the 90% of Ontarians who work full time and made more than minimum wage just took a defacto pay cut by being pushed 3 dollars closer to minimum wage. More specifically people who previously had specialized training in a specific field but only made a few dollars more than minimum wage are no making minimum wage because there's no obligation for employers to raise wages across the board. People who work jobs like receptionists and apprentice tradespeople just became minimum wage earners like a 16 year old applying for his first job at McDonald's.
TFW is not relevant, stop pretending it is.
It is absolutely relevant. The whole purpose of the tfw program was to keep the minimum wage low. Without tfw they would have had to increase minimum wage long ago because enough Canadians do not want to do these jobs for 11.60 h. On the contrary if you have millions of filipinos willing to do that work for less than 11.60 h then you never have to increase the minimum wage because the jobs are always being filled by tfw.