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Society Stop Giving Trump Credit for the Economy
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Just remember, when the bubble pops. That's his too.
Was fucking around about the only praising him for his skin color
They praise him if he managed to manipulate them too
His charisma is what allows him to be as evil as he is while manipulating the lot
Wilson over Buchanan?
In my humble opinion, yes.
Wilson is in the running for worst non-dictator leader of all time.
Don't timelines depend on which policy?
For instance the looming student loan crash and subprime auto crash will occur after Jan 20 but those are not the result of the current administration.
Likewise, Obama did a fine job of continuing bush tarp policies and the cash 4 clunkersauto company bailout and stimulus didn't hurt things but have suspect benefits beyond blowing through 2 trillion. 8 years of unsexy...not badness. But it isn't the reason for the current heating up.
The stock market absolutely has a trump effect built in
But that will correct if infrastructure spending doesn't get passed. The market is counting on a lot that still has to get through Congress with or without the midterms.
We'd have a good economy based on Obama regardless. But corporate hiring and market movement is built on bullish optimism as a combination of what has been done and what hopes to be done domestically and internationally.
For instance the looming student loan crash and subprime auto crash will occur after Jan 20 but those are not the result of the current administration.
Likewise, Obama did a fine job of continuing bush tarp policies and the cash 4 clunkers
The stock market absolutely has a trump effect built in
But that will correct if infrastructure spending doesn't get passed. The market is counting on a lot that still has to get through Congress with or without the midterms.
We'd have a good economy based on Obama regardless. But corporate hiring and market movement is built on bullish optimism as a combination of what has been done and what hopes to be done domestically and internationally.
Then you've got that little number where he pardoned a bunch of drug dealers, but recertified cannabis as Schedule I just before leaving office.
We're not going to have a student loan crash for at least another 2 election cycles. It's coming, but we're still a ways away.Don't timelines depend on which policy?
For instance the looming student loan crash and subprime auto crash will occur after Jan 20 but those are not the result of the current administration.
Likewise, Obama did a fine job of continuing bush tarp policies and the cash 4 clunkersauto company bailoutand stimulus didn't hurt things but have suspect benefits beyond blowing through 2 trillion. 8 years of unsexy...not badness. But it isn't the reason for the current heating up.
The stock market absolutely has a trump effect built in
But that will correct if infrastructure spending doesn't get passed. The market is counting on a lot that still has to get through Congress with or without the midterms.
We'd have a good economy based on Obama regardless. But corporate hiring and market movement is built on bullish optimism as a combination of what has been done and what hopes to be done domestically and internationally.
Warren Gamaliel Harding, Andrew Johnson, and George W. Bush are in a 3 way tie for worst President imo.Who would you give worst to@Kneeblock and where would you rank barry
Obama is probably in the top 11 somewhere. It's a bit too early to say. We've had a lot of Presidents who were awful or forgettable. Personally, I can't rate any President who presided over slavery or in the pre-women's suffrage era. That half the population once couldn't vote means all electoral results and popular opinions are dubious. We have to start from 1920 for eligibility under this criteria. So there have only been 16 Presidents in free and fair elections in the US (and realistically we could extend all the way to 1965 and the voting rights act since several groups were periodically denied the vote until that act). Of the 16, Obama is undeniably top 5, maybe top 3.
I think that's a fair assessment. The subprime car crash is coming sooner. My point was that the "one year" rule loses context and isn't really accurate.
We have a positive economic growth from Obama. Absolutely. Where Europe hamstrung some of their own recovery, Obama did a good job not following suit. We got first mover benefits by being the least worst house in a bad neighborhood as others trudged along.
4 quarters of repeatedly beating expectations on top of that in 2017 is corporate and market faith in current administration actions...Current and expected actions.
Trump can and is owed credit for some additional growth already.
And if we get a big market correction because things likely infrastructure and certain deregulation don't go through, associated parties will be owed that responsibility/blame.
No he's right.
It's only coz he's black. The nobel peace prize he 'won' proves that.
Only dumb momos don't know this.
Mostly because the word "fiscal" isn't in their limited "genius" vocabulary.
We continue to beat expectations on hiring and gdp growth. So jobs do benefit the proletariat
Same with wage increases and decreases in use of social welfare programs.
50% of Americans benefit from the stock market boom directly. More should be, but we are a fickle bunch that aren't so good at prioritizing short term sacrifice for long-term gains.
Do you really believe that?
Obama was a smooth talking senator with two speeches that made my nips hard and looked to mend international relations. I'm not sure that was about being black as much as being "not bush".
Don't feed the trollDon't timelines depend on which policy?
For instance the looming student loan crash and subprime auto crash will occur after Jan 20 but those are not the result of the current administration.
Likewise, Obama did a fine job of continuing bush tarp policies and the cash 4 clunkersauto company bailoutand stimulus didn't hurt things but have suspect benefits beyond blowing through 2 trillion. 8 years of unsexy...not badness. But it isn't the reason for the current heating up.
The stock market absolutely has a trump effect built in
But that will correct if infrastructure spending doesn't get passed. The market is counting on a lot that still has to get through Congress with or without the midterms.
We'd have a good economy based on Obama regardless. But corporate hiring and market movement is built on bullish optimism as a combination of what has been done and what hopes to be done domestically and internationally.
Fair point!
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Depends on the quality of the jobs. Most of the jobs created since 08 have been temporary. Which isn't just a U.S. problem.
What wage increases are we talking about? Decreases in the use of welfare programs help people how?
Assuming your 50% number is correct, how are the rest supposed to benefit when 56% of American's, in 2016, didn't have $1k in their saving?
We are mostly divvying out the last year and that's what I was referencing since this thread. But I think your point is right and interesting...just tangential.
It's a surrogate measure of those increased working and increased wages.
Less use of welfare programs, if it's due to less need of them, as is implied with an associated decrease in unemployment and wage increases, is a good thing intangibly. Tangibly it costs less and has a larger halo effect of more efficient economic benefit.
It is. That's is the approximate number that own stocks, the large majority of which are in cross market indexes.
It's not. I was just answering your question. It isn't a panacea. Just a fact of who benefits.
Lol you might be able to redeem yourself. Doubtful, but maybe.
