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Mix6APlix

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China has approved the removal of term limits for its leader, in a move that effectively allows Xi Jinping to remain as president for life.

The constitutional changes were passed by China's annual sitting of the National People's Congress on Sunday.

The vote was widely regarded as a rubber-stamping exercise. Two delegates voted against the change and three abstained, out of 2,964 votes.

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madmav

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welcome to the age of progressive dictatorships.. kim jong un clearly set the standard with his posse of Dennis Rodman's, hot Olympic cheerleaders and missile blasting any and all lazy generals while waving that nuclear dick around like a mack daddy.. clearly winning.

murica needs to get with the times..
 

Hauler

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Two delegates voted against the change and three abstained, out of 2,964 votes.
In other news from China this morning, 5 delegates disappeared on their way home from a major vote yesterday afternoon. Authorities do not expect foul play and are not looking into the matter.
 
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Coast

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Isn't this standard in most countries though?

As long democracy isn't being interfered with it shouldn't be a problem?
 

Hauler

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Isn't this standard in most countries though?

As long democracy isn't being interfered with it shouldn't be a problem?
The vote was 2959-5. That's a rubber stamp. I'm actually shocked that 5 had the balls to vote against or abstain.

Basically China just jumped back to the 50s when they had Mao Zedong. That didn't work out too well for the people of China. But this development is much worse on a global scale, as China is much stronger than they were back then.

Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Xi now has absolute power with no expiration date. It changes the game.
 

Coast

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The vote was 2959-5. That's a rubber stamp. I'm actually shocked that 5 had the balls to vote against or abstain.

Basically China just jumped back to the 50s when they had Mao Zedong. That didn't work out too well for the people of China. But this development is much worse on a global scale, as China is much stronger than they were back then.

Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Xi now has absolute power with no expiration date. It changes the game.
Honestly, I have absolutely no idea of the political situation in China, is it a democracy? Can the people vote their leader out? Are elections tampered with? I have no idea.

But unlimited terms in office are common place in the developed world, UK, Germany, Canada, Australia etc all have unlimited terms meaning in order for them to be removed they must resign, be sacked or voted out.
 

Hauler

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is it a democracy? Can the people vote their leader out?
They are communist, with a democracy flavor in that they elect their leaders. That was put into place after Mao nearly destroyed the country and caused millions of deaths. They decided to set up 5 year terms, with a 2 term max. Sort of like the United States, although we are 4 year terms with a 2 term max.

But with this recent move, no - they can't vote him out. He's a dictator now. The media in China is heavily censored, and their people are fed nothing but propaganda that make Xi out to be practically a deity. Their economy is going good, and because of this people are being rather shortsighted in the dangers of giving someone this much power for life.
 

Coast

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They are communist, with a democracy flavor in that they elect their leaders. That was put into place after Mao nearly destroyed the country and caused millions of deaths. They decided to set up 5 year terms, with a 2 term max. Sort of like the United States, although we are 4 year terms with a 2 term max.

But with this recent move, no - they can't vote him out. He's a dictator now. The media in China is heavily censored, and their people are fed nothing but propaganda that make Xi out to be practically a deity. Their economy is going good, and because of this people are being rather shortsighted in the dangers of giving someone this much power for life.
Thanks for the info man.

Media is the prevailing weapon in controlling population, the sad thing is that also goes on in the developed world too.
 

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But unlimited terms in office are common place in the developed world, UK, Germany, Canada, Australia etc all have unlimited terms meaning in order for them to be removed they must resign, be sacked or voted out.
UK has elections. Unless you are talking about the Royal Family. I don't want to piss off any Brits, but the Royal Family is basically just an English version of The Kardashians.

Germany just recently held an election. They elected Merkel.

Canada holds federal elections every 4 years I believe. Australia is every 3.

If you are looking for a comparison. Xi is now on par with Putin. Sort of. Russia has elections, but they are rubber stamped. Xi doesn't even need to bother with that facade.
 

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Honestly, I have absolutely no idea of the political situation in China, is it a democracy? Can the people vote their leader out? Are elections tampered with? I have no idea.

But unlimited terms in office are common place in the developed world, UK, Germany, Canada, Australia etc all have unlimited terms meaning in order for them to be removed they must resign, be sacked or voted out.
Same in Netherlands. But China isn't exactly a democracy. They're a Turkey kind of democracy.
 

Coast

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UK has elections. Unless you are talking about the Royal Family. I don't want to piss off any Brits, but the Royal Family is basically just an English version of The Kardashians.

Germany just recently held an election. They elected Merkel.

Canada holds federal elections every 4 years I believe. Australia is every 3.

If you are looking for a comparison. Xi is now on par with Putin. Sort of. Russia has elections, but they are rubber stamped. Xi doesn't even need to bother with that facade.
The queen has more power than you think. All laws must be signed off by her, like the US President she is the Commander-In-Chief , she has the power to declare war on other nations, she can sack the Parliament and the governments where she is head of state - such as Canada. She also wields a lot of influence, for instance if the Kardashians said Trump is not fit for president then its laughed off, if the Queen says the same thing, it becomes a diplomatic incident, with every major outlet the world over reporting on it.

Of course she never gets involved in any of that (although she did sack the Aussie PM in 1975), but technically those powers are available to her.

German have just elected Merkel, but for the 4th time, thats what I mean by unlimited terms - not that they stay permanently elected, but they potentially could with electorate support.

If your saying Xi has appointed himself permanent ruler, then the country has just become a dictatorship. But I think what the article means is that he can stay president beyond 2 terms, if he is elected, but if the info in the article you linked me is correct it would appear that any future elections will just be a formality.
 

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If your saying Xi has appointed himself permanent ruler, then the country has just become a dictatorship. But I think what the article means is that he can stay president beyond 2 terms, if he is elected, but if the info in the article you linked me is correct it would appear that any future elections will just be a formality.
China is a one party state, so elections aren't really elections. Xi eliminated term limits - so he's basically in charge until he decides he doesn't want to be (won't happen) or if there is a coup and he is taken out.
 
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So how long had Chinese leaders previously acted as leader, I mean what was the turnover rate?
 

Coast

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So how long had Chinese leaders previously acted as leader, I mean what was the turnover rate?
Well previous to the new ruling Leaders could serve 2 terms Max at 5 years per term. So 5 - 10 years per leader.
 
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Well previous to the new ruling Leaders could serve 2 terms Max at 5 years per term. So 5 - 10 years per leader.
10 years seems long but I guess it's not.
It's interesting, I wonder why he feels the need to retain control.
I mean I am assuming it's a mixture of ego and strategy but that's just a blind assumption.
 

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So how long had Chinese leaders previously acted as leader, I mean what was the turnover rate?
1983 - 1988 * Li Xiannian
1988 - 1993 * Yang Shangkun
1993 - 2003 * Jiang Zemin (2 terms)
2003 - 2013 * Hu Jintao (2 terms)
2013 - xxxx * Xi Jinping
 

Coast

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10 years seems long but I guess it's not.
It's interesting, I wonder why he feels the need to retain control.
I mean I am assuming it's a mixture of ego and strategy but that's just a blind assumption.
My guess is that he's unrelenting in his conviction. He believes he's the right person for the job and only he can do it, he probably has a vision for his goals and needs more time to accomplish them.

But there really ought to be safe guards in place to prevent this kind of thing from happening. If he has state media under control it would likely take military coup to remove him now.
 

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The queen has more power than you think. All laws must be signed off by her, like the US President she is the Commander-In-Chief , she has the power to declare war on other nations, she can sack the Parliament and the governments where she is head of state - such as Canada. She also wields a lot of influence, for instance if the Kardashians said Trump is not fit for president then its laughed off, if the Queen says the same thing, it becomes a diplomatic incident, with every major outlet the world over reporting on it.

Of course she never gets involved in any of that (although she did sack the Aussie PM in 1975), but technically those powers are available to her.

German have just elected Merkel, but for the 4th time, thats what I mean by unlimited terms - not that they stay permanently elected, but they potentially could with electorate support.

If your saying Xi has appointed himself permanent ruler, then the country has just become a dictatorship. But I think what the article means is that he can stay president beyond 2 terms, if he is elected, but if the info in the article you linked me is correct it would appear that any future elections will just be a formality.
She follows the rule of the good prince m
 

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She follows the rule of the good prince m
The good prince was (I don't know if he still is as he's retired from most stuff) in charge of the Navy. His order being the highest command that could be issued.