Max is going to win.

[BeardOfKnowledge]

I'll start thinking of names now:

- Dagestani Faceplant
- Khabib is Rama-done
- Wrestling = Terrible Base for MMA
- Boxing > Wrestling

I'll come up with more, don't worry.

Karate > Wrestling

 

[member 3289]

Karate > Wrestling

Mewv-ment Coach > Wrestling Coach

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

Look at DCs resume compared to Jon Jones, one take down?

People seem to forget that not only did DC only take down JBJ once (when the fight was over and he clearly didn't give a fuck) JBJ took him down 3 times.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

So open question to those who think Max is going to win. How does he accomplish this?

 

[ECC170]

We all know it's different when it comes to MMA wrestling .GSP had no credentials like many of the wrestlers but was one of the best when it came to MMA wrestling. Look at DCs resume compared to Jon Jones, one take down? Then look at Gus who's not considered a wrestler at all and got Jon down 3 times iirc.

In jbj defense he was a JUCO College national champion at Iowa central where Cain and Covington both went before transferring to D1 schools of Arizona State and Oregon State..Jbj was recruited heavily to Iowa state who at the time was a top program in ncaa D1... he just chose a different path..I knew of Jon And Arthur from national tournaments growing up.. he def was a stud wrestler and really good @ greco Roman..

 

[Silverball]

We all know it's different when it comes to MMA wrestling .GSP had no credentials like many of the wrestlers but was one of the best when it came to MMA wrestling. Look at DCs resume compared to Jon Jones, one take down? Then look at Gus who's not considered a wrestler at all and got Jon down 3 times iirc.

GSP's a freak, and there's no other fighter like him, especially from that era. He's not a useful comparison, in my opinion. DC has won nearly all of his fights, against both strikers and grapplers by using his superior wrestling. Guys that she should outclass on paper have been outclassed in the cage (including Gus), with Jon Jones being the lone exception. Jon Jones, who was a great JCC wrestler and might've gone further in the sport had he not been a fuck up early in life, and now (let's be honest). If we're comparing his fight with Gus to his first fight with DC, then we have to assume he probably trained more wrestling prior to fighting an Olympic level wrestler. Not to mention that Jon Jones is arguably the GOAT. I do get what you're saying, and I'm a Holloway fan, but denying Khabib the takedown for 25 minutes is asking a lot of Max.

 

[KWingJitsu]

Max can definitely beat Khabib.


But he won't on April 7th.

 

[1031]

Gonna be a more brutal version of Frankie vs Cub.

never saw that one.

 

[tang]

Im making a point that Max has 100% take down defence and you down played it saying he hasnt fought any good wrestlers. Khabib has been successful taking past opponents down but non of those guys are high caliber wrestlers either. Im not questioning Khabibs wrestling because i know its top notch regardless of whether he has faced a top wrestler or not.

Ok. Appreciate you digging out those stats. Max has inproved and results arw impressive but they’re against non-wrestlers.
And Regardless of who Khabib took down, Khabib’s been taking down everyone, even the ones are tough to take down (barboza, RDA), Able Trujillo was a wrestler and also all the training partners that are wrestlers.

That being said, although Max’s TDD record is impressive it won’t matter cuz he never defensed a TD against any wrestlers( who Khabib still takes down at will) or high caliber wrestler like Khabib.

 

[aghof]

Mewv-ment Coach > Wrestling Coach

SAFTA > Joe Son Do > Modern MMA

 

[HEATH VON DOOM]

Mewv-ment Coach > Wrestling Coach

Touch butt in the park with that ponytailed dork > wrestling coach