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Gaethje gets $110,000 for exacerbating his inevitable CTE. Hope he's able to save a good chunk of that money because his earning potential will be impeded when he's practically incapacitated in the coming years.

Main card (FOX)

Dustin Poirier ($85,000 + $85,000 = $170,000) def. Justin Gaethje ($110,000)
Alex Oliveira ($50,000 + $50,000 = $100,000) def. Carlos Condit ($115,000)
Israel Adesanya ($53,000 + $53,000 = $106,000) def. Marvin Vettori ($20,000)
Michelle Waterson ($40,000 + $40,000 = $80,000) def. Cortney Casey ($33,000)

Preliminary card (FOX)

Antonio Carlos Junior ($40,000 + $40,000 = $80,000) def. Tim Boetsch ($72,000)
Muslim Salikhov ($10,000 + $10,000 = $20,000) def. Ricky Rainey ($14,000)
John Moraga ($37,000 + $37,000 = $74,000) def. Wilson Reis ($31,000)
Brad Tavares ($40,000 + $40,000 = $80,000) def. Krzysztof Jotko ($36,000)

Preliminary card (UFC Fight Pass)

Gilbert Burns ($28,000 + $28,000 = $56,000) def. Dan Moret $12,000
Lauren Mueller ($10,000 + $10,000 = $20,000) def. Shana Dobson $12,000
Yushin Okami ($35,000 + $35,000 = $70,000) def. Dhiego Lima $15,000
Adam Wieczorek ($12,000 + $12,000 = $24,000) def. Arjan Bhullar $12,000
Alejandro Perez ($25,000 + $25,000 = $50,000) def. Matthew Lopez $33,000
Luke Sanders ($12,000 + $12,000 = $24,000) def. Patrick Williams $12,000

UFC on FOX 29 payouts and salaries: Dustin Poirier leads payday way with $170k
 
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Boestch getting 72k is interesting . I think hes negotiated for a flat fee or maybe hes just getting that for show money which is even better for when he wins. Im too lazy to look at his last numbers but you gotta wonder if another loss and they cut him. I think they keep him around for rebound/hype building fights

Hes had 23 ufc fights
12 wins 11 losses
and hes finished 7/12 wins and has been finished in 9/11 losses

I wouldnt be suprised if he fought paulo borrachinha costa next
 

regular john

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Boestch getting 72k is interesting . I think hes negotiated for a flat fee or maybe hes just getting that for show money which is even better for when he wins. Im too lazy to look at his last numbers but you gotta wonder if another loss and they cut him. I think they keep him around for rebound/hype building fights

Hes had 23 ufc fights
12 wins 11 losses
and hes finished 7/12 wins and has been finished in 9/11 losses

I wouldnt be suprised if he fought paulo borrachinha costa next
I can already see him entering the next Bellator HW tournament or being introduced to Glory as "former ufc legend Tim Boetsch".

if they match him up with Borrachinha he might end the hype though.
 

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I could point to multiple bullshit things with U Fight Cheap's pay here but I'll focus on one.

I hate WMMA. But with money we are talking name recognition. And Michelle Waterson's contract is ridiculous considering her profile. Earning less than Israel fucking Adesanya...
 

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Alex Oliveira ($50,000 + $50,000 = $100,000) def. Carlos Condit ($115,000)
Israel Adesanya ($53,000 + $53,000 = $106,000) def. Marvin Vettori ($20,000)
Michelle Waterson ($40,000 + $40,000 = $80,000) def. Cortney Casey ($33,000)
Who the hell did Adesanya blow to get this kind of pay? It's his 2nd fight & he's making more than Cowboy & Hottie?

Cowboy got $5,000 Rebok money & a $50,000 bonus, but how is his guaranteed pay lower than Adesanya. Cowboy's had 12 fights in the UFC ffs.

People typically make 12k - 14k show/win pay on their 2nd fight. hell that's what Conor was making on his 1st & 2nd fight... Adesanya is making 53k show/win? Teh fook?
 
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Nice to see some people cracking into 6 figures.
Minus win bonuses, only two fighters made six figures. Condit, who's been fighting since 2002 and challenged for the belt on three separate occasions (one of those being for an interim belt), made $115,000. Not a lot for a big name, possibly at the end of a storied career. Justin made $110,000 in his third UFC fight, which seems decent when compared to Condit. If he's really only planning on fighting five more times, then it could start to seem less decent, but getting a few wins and challenging for a belt at some point could bump his pay up, so we'll see.
 

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Minus win bonuses, only two fighters made six figures. Condit, who's been fighting since 2002 and challenged for the belt on three separate occasions (one of those being for an interim belt), made $115,000. Not a lot for a big name, possibly at the end of a storied career. Justin made $110,000 in his third UFC fight, which seems decent when compared to Condit. If he's really only planning on fighting five more times, then it could start to seem less decent, but getting a few wins and challenging for a belt at some point could bump his pay up, so we'll see.
Still though, it's a free card on FOX where they drew a live gate of $1,085,712, which doesn't even cover the fighter pay. At one point you'd see guys earning 4k, so it's good to see that fighter pay is getting better, although not where it should be.
 

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Still though, it's a free card on FOX where they drew a live gate of $1,085,712, which doesn't even cover the fighter pay. At one point you'd see guys earning 4k, so it's good to see that fighter pay is getting better, although not where it should be.
When has there ever been a fighter in a main or co-main event on FOX that made 4k? It's one thing to say it's getting better, and not yet where it should be, which I agree with, but when you preface it with that 4k figure? The UFC made more than enough through advertising and the pre-existing TV deal to pay their fighters, especially the guys and gals at the top of the card, substantially more than what's being reported.
 

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When has there ever been a fighter in a main or co-main event on FOX that made 4k?
Where did I make that claim? Learn to read before you get all hot and bothered by a post.

4k payouts were common years ago for prelim fighters, that was the bare minimum. Now it seems the bare minimum is 12k, which is still not great, but I'm happy the number is trending upwards. That's all I'm saying.

I think the fighters should be getting paid more too, but I think making 115k at this stage in his career on a free show is not too shabby. The UFC has much more expenses than just pay roll. I'd love to know if the UFC even breaks even on these kinds of shows or if they just look at it as expanding the brand.
 

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Where did I make that claim? Learn to read before you get all hot and bothered by a post.

4k payouts were common years ago for prelim fighters, that was the bare minimum. Now it seems the bare minimum is 12k, which is still not great, but I'm happy the number is trending upwards. That's all I'm saying.

I think the fighters should be getting paid more too, but I think making 115k at this stage in his career on a free show is not too shabby. The UFC has much more expenses than just pay roll. I'd love to know if the UFC even breaks even on these kinds of shows or if they just look at it as expanding the brand.
Comparing fighter pay in 2018 to the days when it was common to pay fighters 4k is such a ridiculous way to start a post that I can't believe you're still responding as if you have any credibility left on the subject.

Your expressed concern over whether the UFC "breaks even" on these events seems to represent your position slightly better.
 
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I can already see him entering the next Bellator HW tournament or being introduced to Glory as "former ufc legend Tim Boetsch".

if they match him up with Borrachinha he might end the hype though.
Are you crazy? Borrachinha is the future as long as usada stays away



Bow before the HW future MW champ
 

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Are you crazy? Borrachinha is the future as long as usada stays away



Bow before the HW future MW champ
You never know what a wrestler can do to a brazilian prospect. Borrachinha's wrestling training most likely is a sprawl and a double leg.
 
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You never know what a wrestler can do to a brazilian prospect. Borrachinha's wrestling training most likely is a sprawl and a double leg.
Hes stuffed usada hendricks iirc and the black dude ... Holy war angle i dont remeber his name he got cut

A brazillian vs a guy who tapped like 7 times albieit to more credentialed grapplers.

Borrachinha by KO 2 rounds or less. Remember this post if it ever gets booked
 
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Who the hell did Adesanya blow to get this kind of pay? It's his 2nd fight & he's making more than Cowboy & Hottie?

Cowboy got $5,000 Rebok money & a $50,000 bonus, but how is his guaranteed pay lower than Adesanya. Cowboy's had 12 fights in the UFC ffs.

People typically make 12k - 14k show/win pay on their 2nd fight. hell that's what Conor was making on his 1st & 2nd fight... Adesanya is making 53k show/win? Teh fook?
Cm punk gets 500k and sage was on a 60/60 right away i think
 

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Who the hell did Adesanya blow to get this kind of pay? It's his 2nd fight & he's making more than Cowboy & Hottie?

Cowboy got $5,000 Rebok money & a $50,000 bonus, but how is his guaranteed pay lower than Adesanya. Cowboy's had 12 fights in the UFC ffs.

People typically make 12k - 14k show/win pay on their 2nd fight. hell that's what Conor was making on his 1st & 2nd fight... Adesanya is making 53k show/win? Teh fook?
Buddy, you know you cannot just go by AC reports.
That goes for Bellator as well
 

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Buddy, you know you cannot just go by AC reports.
That goes for Bellator as well
True. Bellator/Coker get really creative with their deals. Like Josh Thomson being reported as earning something like $12k flat for one of his fights.
 

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True. Bellator/Coker get really creative with their deals. Like Josh Thomson being reported as earning something like $12k flat for one of his fights.
I used to post a link all the time at SD from a former Bellator exec on a podcast (no longer active).
He explained how UFC/Bellator both do deals & that AC reports are useless in most cases.
He said they do signing bonuses, appearance fees, media fees, etc.
He said that a large part of negotiations for most fighters is how they want to get their pie split up.
Most fighters have very little negotiation leverage, so the deals are negotiated by how they want the money divided.
He said most want their AC reports to look less, so people don't realize how much they make & add in that some fighters pay their gym a % of AC reports, so ... ;)
Plus AC's can only fine off of AC reported income

When UFC pay was reported, that itself proved how off AC reports were/are & like you said Bellator is known for big signing bonuses as well.

Remember Nate Diaz complaining about his "show money" before the Conor fight?
He left out that he agreed to a low per fight figure, because UFC gave him a big signing bonus to cover back taxes.

We know the 2015/16 % of UFC fighter pay & that it is still a lot lower than it should be, but when people argue about AC reports, it is a bit silly, since we have no idea what they actually get.
 
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MyrddinWild

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Buddy, you know you cannot just go by AC reports.
That goes for Bellator as well
Usually that applies to going the other way. Such as a fighter made "less" money than you would expect... with the truth being that they're getting a larger payday else where.

However in this case he's getting way more than would be expected. WAY MORE.

Or do we have intel saying that these reports are just completely useless & thus this thread is a sham. To be honest, I would believe these reports were f*cked before I believe that this guy actually made 53k/53k in his second UFC fight.

Cm punk gets 500k and sage was on a 60/60 right away i think
Please... International superstar CM Punk's pay is not even in the same discussion as a previously unknown

UFC 192 - Sage Northcutt - $10,000 to show, $10,000 win bonus, $2,400 from Trevino for missing weight, $2,500 Reebok sponsorship) $24,900
UFC 192 Fighter Salaries, Reebok $$, Attendance & Gate

This fooking Adesanya guy here is making 53k to show + 53k to win on his second fight. WHY? I've never heard of him before.

Most people get 10k/10k,
second fight 12k/12k
Third fight 14k/14k

Then their innitial contract is up & they re-negotiate. Most just continuing the same slow progression though a little faster increases that takes them a dozen fights to get to 53k/53k.

WTF is going on with Adesanya right out teh gate?
 
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FrankieNYC

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Or do we have intel saying that these reports are just completely useless & thus this thread is a sham. To be honest, I would believe these reports were f*cked before I believe that this guy actually made 53k/53k in his second UFC fight.
Read post #18
I figured you saw those SD post I made with that info

RE
Israel Adesanya:
He was 11-0 before joining UFC & considered a top free agent. I would guess out-bidding Bellator put him in that range
Since WME, fighter guarantees have gone up. What has gone down is discretionary bonuses.
So newer contracts are tougher to compare to older contracts, since in Lorenzo's era, he allowed Dana to "tip" out a lot more.
But even newer contracts won't be 100% exact in regards to AC reports.
Israel, most likely made even more than that.


Hope you are doing well man
 

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Adesanya is a legit prospect, and a hell of a signing....throw the undefeated aspect in, and they can market the hell out of this kid. Good for him.
 

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UFC 192 - Sage Northcutt - $10,000 to show, $10,000 win bonus, $2,400 from Trevino for missing weight, $2,500 Reebok sponsorship) $24,900
Sage supposedly got a nice signing bonus since he was a hot property & Bellator went after him as well
 

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Usually that applies to going the other way. Such as a fighter made "less" money than you would expect... with the truth being that they're getting a larger payday else where.

However in this case he's getting way more than would be expected. WAY MORE.

Or do we have intel saying that these reports are just completely useless & thus this thread is a sham. To be honest, I would believe these reports were f*cked before I believe that this guy actually made 53k/53k in his second UFC fight.


Please... International superstar CM Punk's pay is not even in the same discussion as a previously unknown

UFC 192 - Sage Northcutt - $10,000 to show, $10,000 win bonus, $2,400 from Trevino for missing weight, $2,500 Reebok sponsorship) $24,900
UFC 192 Fighter Salaries, Reebok $$, Attendance & Gate

This fooking Adesanya guy here is making 53k to show + 53k to win on his second fight. WHY? I've never heard of him before.

Most people get 10k/10k,
second fight 12k/12k
Third fight 14k/14k

Then their innitial contract is up & they re-negotiate. Most just continuing the same slow progression though a little faster increases that takes them a dozen fights to get to 53k/53k.

WTF is going on with Adesanya right out teh gate?
He’s pissing on cages and shitting on graves. He needs all the money he can get to buy a proper fucking toilet.
 

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This fooking Adesanya guy here is making 53k to show + 53k to win on his second fight. WHY? I've never heard of him before.

Most people get 10k/10k,
second fight 12k/12k
Third fight 14k/14k

Then their innitial contract is up & they re-negotiate. Most just continuing the same slow progression though a little faster increases that takes them a dozen fights to get to 53k/53k.

WTF is going on with Adesanya right out teh gate?
he is the object of multiple "striking experts" videos on youtube. probably is a 28 times muay thai world champion too. you can't deny those credentials.
 
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Usually that applies to going the other way. Such as a fighter made "less" money than you would expect... with the truth being that they're getting a larger payday else where.

However in this case he's getting way more than would be expected. WAY MORE.

Or do we have intel saying that these reports are just completely useless & thus this thread is a sham. To be honest, I would believe these reports were f*cked before I believe that this guy actually made 53k/53k in his second UFC fight.


Please... International superstar CM Punk's pay is not even in the same discussion as a previously unknown

UFC 192 - Sage Northcutt - $10,000 to show, $10,000 win bonus, $2,400 from Trevino for missing weight, $2,500 Reebok sponsorship) $24,900
UFC 192 Fighter Salaries, Reebok $$, Attendance & Gate

This fooking Adesanya guy here is making 53k to show + 53k to win on his second fight. WHY? I've never heard of him before.

Most people get 10k/10k,
second fight 12k/12k
Third fight 14k/14k

Then their innitial contract is up & they re-negotiate. Most just continuing the same slow progression though a little faster increases that takes them a dozen fights to get to 53k/53k.

WTF is going on with Adesanya right out teh gate?
I stand corrected. Maybe its his new contract thats 60/60 but i thought it was the original. I remember alot of veterans bitching about him and paige getting paid and pushed and sponsors