Gilbert Melendez is.....

[Haulport]

1-5 in his non-Strikeforce, UFC career over the past five years. Finished once during that time and basically fighting just once a year (inactive, suspension, etc.).

Disappointing drop-off for such a ridiculously talented guy. I always felt he was like BJ, Wandy and Nick in that he fell in love with his hands and abandoned his wrestling and BJJ later in his career.

It is so hard for fighters (and a lot of athletes) to stay good once they hit their 30's.....

 

[sparkuri]

UFC matchmaking also sucks.

 

[Haulport]

UFC matchmaking also sucks.

Not gonna dispute that...

 

[Wild]

Lost to Benson Henderson, Pettis, Alvarez, Barboza, and Stephens. Beat Diego Sanchez. Fought some killers, but you think he'd win more than just one of those fights.

 

[D241]

He's been in the game for a very long time, had some WARS, and his body/mind have taken much damage over the years. Taking that into consideration, his rise of consistently fighting top fighters, coupled with being busted for steroids(this really bummed me out), it's understandable his decline.

I've watched El Nino since since his 2nd ever fight which I want to share with my fellow mma fans that of all the fight cards I've seen, probably the most underrated one is this one, WEC 6 return of a legend. 12 out of 14 fights were finished, many fights with back and forth momentum changes, and fighters in addition to Gilbert Melendez are-Mike Swick, Joe Hurley, Nick Diaz, Jeremy Jackson, Shonie Carter, Gil Castillo, and Frank Shamrock.

 

[Dirty Harry Potter]

Lost to Benson Henderson, Pettis, Alvarez, Barboza, and Stephens. Beat Diego Sanchez. Fought some killers, but you think he'd win more than just one of those fights.

Well, the Sanchez fight was fairly evenly matched, and interesting enough, iirc.
That more or less places Gilbert just below those guys he lost to. Close, but no cigar,
like a whole lot of fighters. Great fighter, good career; never quite top-level UFC.

 

[Dick Niaz]

He should have been given the nod over Alvarez. Did not agree with that split decision.

 

[SensoriaUtopia]

1-5 in his non-Strikeforce, UFC career over the past five years. Finished once during that time and basically fighting just once a year (inactive, suspension, etc.).

Disappointing drop-off for such a ridiculously talented guy. I always felt he was like BJ, Wandy and Nick in that he fell in love with his hands and abandoned his wrestling and BJJ later in his career.

It is so hard for fighters (and a lot of athletes) to stay good once they hit their 30's.....

Why post his record and not list the killers he has fought, or that some of those where sd losses that could have went the other way?

his 1 and 5 is more impressive than most guys 4 and 2, those names are beasts he fought no shame in being 1 and 5 against that.

Also, he got busted for PED's so perhaps he was more sauced up earlier in his career who knows.

 

[Haulport]

Why post his record and not list the killers he has fought, or that some of those where sd losses that could have went the other way?

his 1 and 5 is more impressive than most guys 4 and 2, those names are beasts he fought no shame in being 1 and 5 against that.

Also, he got busted for PED's so perhaps he was more sauced up earlier in his career who knows.

The exact point of these posts is to get a clear look at the big picture of the basic numbers. That is the exact opposite of posting the names of the people he fought. That would be a different thread.

 

[GSPTrainingInAPool]

WEC 6 return of a legend

great card. I miss the card names. Added a lot to my enjoyment

 

[SensoriaUtopia]

The exact point of these posts is to get a clear look at the big picture of the basic numbers. That is the exact opposite of posting the names of the people he fought. That would be a different thread.

But that's weird as fuck its about who you fight and how the fights go, you post 1 and 5 but you leave out who he fought and that a few those could have been called for him.

 

[kneeblock]

Well, the Sanchez fight was fairly evenly matched, and interesting enough, iirc.
That more or less places Gilbert just below those guys he lost to. Close, but no cigar,
like a whole lot of fighters. Great fighter, good career; never quite top-level UFC.

I think Gil peaked before he came to the UFC, but was once one of the world's best LWs.

 

[Dirty Harry Potter]

I think Gil peaked before he came to the UFC, but was once one of the world's best LWs.

Yeah, it's often crowded at the top . Condit is another good example .
Fought and fought and fought and finally got an interim belt . Slow rise,
not quite to the very top, and slow decline . Carlos was younger, and
peaked in the UFC though.

 

[Haulport]

But that's weird as fuck its about who you fight and how the fights go, you post 1 and 5 but you leave out who he fought and that a few those could have been called for him.

U continue to miss the point. The idea IS the contrast of his record to the perception created by seeing the fights and knowing his opponents.

Like, "Isn't it crazy Gil is 1-5?"

 

[SensoriaUtopia]

U continue to miss the point. The idea IS the contrast of his record to the perception created by seeing the fights and knowing his opponents.

Like, "Isn't it crazy Gil is 1-5?"

I think you miss the point, you want to look at the surface and not deeper. It's silly to just 1 and 5, look at the details. I am going by how you worded the op, maybe you where going for something different but based on how you worded your op I don't see that respectfully saying.

 

[Haulport]

I think you miss the point, you want to look at the surface and not deeper. It's silly to just 1 and 5, look at the details. I am going by how you worded the op, maybe you where going for something different but based on how you worded your op I don't see that respectfully saying.

Clearly wasting my time talking to u. If u think that Gil is doing great fighting a handful of times in the past five years, getting suspended for PEDs and going 1-5 with a couple of questionable decisions (like his WIN over Diego) and that looking at his base record is not a good angle to take it's probably because u'd PREFER to think he has been doing better than he has...

 

[jimmy boogaloo]

remember in pride when he was all wild boxing with his hair flying around? excellent fighter and one of the very best of the time. he has eaten a tonne of punishment, while facing the top guys. i respect him 100%. absolute warrior

 

[aghof]

Clearly wasting my time talking to u. If u think that Gil is doing great fighting a handful of times in the past five years, getting suspended for PEDs and going 1-5 with a couple of questionable decisions (like his WIN over Diego) and that looking at his base record is not a good angle to take it's probably because u'd PREFER to think he has been doing better than he has...

yes, he hasn't had a good run, but my recollection of the Diego fight was Gib pretty well dominated other than getting rocked once.

Also, the Henderson and Alvarez fights could have gone his way if he'd been lucky and/or a bit more strategic. I felt like he coasted and looked for the big shot after blasting Eddie early and got outworked for the decision.

 

[KWingJitsu]

Makes you realize how much his PED cream helped his career. I was at a couple of his Strikeforce fights and enjoyed them... but he is tainted.

 

[Onetrickpony]

Gilbert Melendez is....

A lucky man.

 

[Onetrickpony]

Relevant.

Gilbert Melendez's beat-up leg still keeping him out of action
By Steven Marrocco April 28, 2018 9:00 am

Doctors told two-time UFC lightweight title challenger Gilbert Melendez his leg would heal on its own.

He’s still waiting several months later.

Melendez (22-7 MMA, 1-5 UFC) still hasn’t recovered from his previous octagon appearance, and the injury has brought his career to a halt.

Melendez turned down an offer to appear in July at UFC Fight Night 133 in order to give himself more time to heal.

“That’s the only thing holding me back right now from jumping in,” Melendez told MMAjunkie Radio. “I feel like I haven’t taken too many beatings, but my leg has taken a lot of beatings.”

Jeremy Stephens battered Melendez in his featherweight debut with leg kicks when they met this past September at UFC 215, handing him a unanimous-decision loss and extending his current losing streak to four. A picture of his leg posted after the fight showed it swollen and badly bruised.

The extent of the damage is such that Melendez believes the bruises may have calcified – or have turned into bone – and are pressing on the nerves in his leg. He’s looking into stem cell treatment to alleviate his symptoms.

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Gilbert Melendez's beat-up leg still keeping him out of action