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Kingtony87

Kingtony87

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Imo cnn colluding with Hillary giving her questions to a debate with 100 million people watching is far more damaging than any of the emails or Facebook trolls Russia did.
 
IschKabibble

IschKabibble

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Kingtony87 said:
Imo cnn colluding with Hillary giving her questions to a debate with 100 million people watching is far more damaging than any of the emails or Facebook trolls Russia did.
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Everything from the left is a projection based on their own guilt. Remember this gem?

 
Sex Chicken

Sex Chicken

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karate chop! said:
Clearest illustration of guilt = defending yourself against an attack.

Sounds legit!
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You either don’t understand my point or you are purposely misrepresenting my point in order to make a point that seems to make sense but has nothing to do with what I said.
 
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Sex Chicken said:
You either don’t understand my point or you are purposely misrepresenting my point in order to make a point that seems to make sense but has nothing to do with what I said.
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First off it's not your point, you're posting someone else's point.

Secondly the point that you posted belonging to someone else specifically mentioned that Trump publicly asked Russia to hack Hillary, which is a lie. It was a joke to bring attention to those 30k emails she somehow misplaced.
 
Sex Chicken

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karate chop! said:
First off it's not your point, you're posting someone else's point.

Secondly the point that you posted belonging to someone else specifically mentioned that Trump publicly asked Russia to hack Hillary, which is a lie. It was a joke to bring attention to those 30k emails she somehow misplaced.
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First off. It was "my point" I commented on the tweet I posted. You directly quoted my opinion and my opinion only.
"This is to me one of the clearest illustrations of his guilt."

Secondly "My point" had nothing to do with the Trump asking Russia to do anything. That is a single point you desperately clung to because you feel it doesn't have merit.

My point is that when it's clear a crime took place (One of your campaign managers is in jail, your National Security Advisor pleads guilty to lying about the FBI about his secret meetings with Russia about sanctions prior to the election, 4 other members have your staff have plead guilty to lying about their connections with Russia. your family has been caught lying, denying any business interests in Russia etc. etc. etc. AND ALL OF YOUR INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES HAVE REPORTED THAT THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT INTERFERED WITH AN AMERICAN ELECTION) the reasonable response by the president should be. "We need to look in to this, and figure out how it happened".

Trump has shown throughout his life that he has no problem throwing people under the bus. Why do you think he hasn't tried to save himself by distancing himself from this mess? He could say "I am outraged that these people infiltrated my campaign." and then announce his own investigation.

He can't do this, because he can't throw the Russians under the bus, because he knows and they know that there was collusion. If Trump admits that Russia did this, then there will be calls for sanctions and a freezing out of Russia. The only reason Russia wants Trump in there and helped put him there is to lift sanctions and to help Russia internationally. He is trapped like a rat.
 
Pitbull9

Pitbull9

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Sex Chicken said:
First off. It was "my point" I commented on the tweet I posted. You directly quoted my opinion and my opinion only.
"This is to me one of the clearest illustrations of his guilt."

Secondly "My point" had nothing to do with the Trump asking Russia to do anything. That is a single point you desperately clung to because you feel it doesn't have merit.

My point is that when it's clear a crime took place (One of your campaign managers is in jail, your National Security Advisor pleads guilty to lying about the FBI about his secret meetings with Russia about sanctions prior to the election, 4 other members have your staff have plead guilty to lying about their connections with Russia. your family has been caught lying, denying any business interests in Russia etc. etc. etc. AND ALL OF YOUR INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES HAVE REPORTED THAT THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT INTERFERED WITH AN AMERICAN ELECTION) the reasonable response by the president should be. "We need to look in to this, and figure out how it happened".

Trump has shown throughout his life that he has no problem throwing people under the bus. Why do you think he hasn't tried to save himself by distancing himself from this mess? He could say "I am outraged that these people infiltrated my campaign." and then announce his own investigation.

He can't do this, because he can't throw the Russians under the bus, because he knows and they know that there was collusion. If Trump admits that Russia did this, then there will be calls for sanctions and a freezing out of Russia. The only reason Russia wants Trump in there and helped put him there is to lift sanctions and to help Russia internationally. He is trapped like a rat.
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Ok so when this is all said and done and if Mueller says trump is good to go than what? Will the next narrative be mueller is corrupt? What will be the excuse?
 
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Ted Williams' head

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Sex Chicken said:
First off. It was "my point" I commented on the tweet I posted. You directly quoted my opinion and my opinion only.
"This is to me one of the clearest illustrations of his guilt."

Secondly "My point" had nothing to do with the Trump asking Russia to do anything. That is a single point you desperately clung to because you feel it doesn't have merit.

My point is that when it's clear a crime took place (One of your campaign managers is in jail, your National Security Advisor pleads guilty to lying about the FBI about his secret meetings with Russia about sanctions prior to the election, 4 other members have your staff have plead guilty to lying about their connections with Russia. your family has been caught lying, denying any business interests in Russia etc. etc. etc. AND ALL OF YOUR INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES HAVE REPORTED THAT THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT INTERFERED WITH AN AMERICAN ELECTION) the reasonable response by the president should be. "We need to look in to this, and figure out how it happened".

Trump has shown throughout his life that he has no problem throwing people under the bus. Why do you think he hasn't tried to save himself by distancing himself from this mess? He could say "I am outraged that these people infiltrated my campaign." and then announce his own investigation.

He can't do this, because he can't throw the Russians under the bus, because he knows and they know that there was collusion. If Trump admits that Russia did this, then there will be calls for sanctions and a freezing out of Russia. The only reason Russia wants Trump in there and helped put him there is to lift sanctions and to help Russia internationally. He is trapped like a rat.
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Under normal conditions I would agree with you to an extent. Taken out of context, it would look bad on anyone.

But this is not normal circumstances: we're dealing with an outsider candidate who is VERY polarizing, who has consistently been treated unfairly by the media and government organizations, as we've now learned. The stakes are high and there are too many people operating within the situation who have an axe to grind or at least a horse in the race.

But one thing you and a lot of liberal pundits are forgetting is an indictment is just someone being charged - as we know, everyone is innocent until proven guilty. So no, there isn't clear guilt proven yet, as they charges could melt away under trial scrutiny.

If you'd drop your anti-Trump bias for just a moment and watch a video like the one I posted of cybersecurity expert John McAfee explaining how adept hackers are at covering their tracks and how flawed the "evidence" linking Russia actually is, maybe you wouldn't be so confident.
 
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