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Ted Williams' head

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I feel like I owe you all an apology. For a while I've been posting in this thread endorsing and standing up for a certain president. But all that was before I knew this president slept with a Playboy model, paid the whore to shut her trap, and then lied about doing it. I can't understand this kind of action at all.

When people who are spending 24/7, 365 trying to take you down demand you hand over incriminating evidence against yourself, you should just do it. Don't try to keep your personal life private, just hand over any juicy detail your detractors can use against you.

Now that we know Trump lied about this - which was a huge revelation for me, I figured Cohen just paid these whores off out of the goodness of his heart without Trump knowing - we now know conclusively that everything Trump says is a lie.

As we know, truth telling is a binary thing: either people 100% tell the truth, or they 100% lie. Science tells us there is no middle ground
 

Freeloading Rusty

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Maria Butina: ties emerge between NRA, alleged spy and Russian billionaire
Senior members of the National Rifle Association (NRA) met the wife of the Russian billionaire who allegedly gave financial support to a woman accused of being a secret agent for Moscow in the US.

The NRA members met Svetlana Nikolaeva, who is the head of a gun company that supplies sniper rifles to the Russian military and intelligence services, during a trip to Moscow during the 2016 election campaign.


Accused spy Maria Butina met with Russia's former US ambassador
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Nikolaeva’s husband, Konstantin Nikolaev, allegedly provided funding to Maria Butina, a young Russian woman charged with carrying out an illicit spying operation in Washington. Nikolaev reportedly once invested in his wife’s gun company.

The finding sheds further light on the links forged in recent years between America’s powerful gun lobby and well-connected Russians. US prosecutors allege Butina’s activities were directed by Alexander Torshin, a senior Russian state banker and an NRA member.

The NRA and Nikolaev’s companies did not respond to requests for comment.

No senior NRA official has made any public statement about Butina’s case since news of the charges was announced by the US justice department on 16 July.

Butina, 29, was arrested this month and charged with illegally operating as a foreign agent. She is accused of working to infiltrate the NRA as part of an attempt to influence the Republican party and establish secret backchannels with American politicians. She has pleaded not guilty and denies any wrongdoing.

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Prosecutors said that her emails and online chats contained details of a Russian billionaire with “deep ties” to the Kremlin, who was described as Butina’s “funder”. He was not identified in the charging documents, but was said to have a personal fortune valued at $1.2bn by Forbes magazine.

During her testimony to the Senate intelligence committee in April, Butina said Nikolaev had given her financial support, the Washington Post reported. The Russian newspaper Kommersant reported that a representative for Nikolaev confirmed he gave money to Butina’s gun rights group between 2012 and 2014.

Forbes currently estimates the net worth of Nikolaev, a transportation magnate, as $1.2bn. Nikolaev has been involved in several business projects connected to allies of Vladimir Putin, Russia’s president. His son, Andrey, volunteered for Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, according to the Post.

Nikolaev’s wife, Svetlana, is an accomplished gun user who has competed in shooting competitions in the US and Israel. She is the president of Promtechnologies, the parent company of Orsis, and has played a prominent role in the firm’s expansion.

Last year, Orsis began supplying its acclaimed T-5000 sniper rifle to Russia’s armed forces and Federal Security Service (FSB), the successor to the KGB. The company’s general director and chief gun designer, Vladimir Zlobin, is a former FSB official, according to his biography at a university operated by Russia’s ministry of foreign affairs.

Nikolaev has been named in several Russian media reports in recent years as an early investor in Orsis’s parent company. But the company insisted he was not currently an owner of the firm. “Mr Nikolaev is not connected with the company,” an unidentified spokesperson said in an email. Asked whether Nikolaev held a stake in the company in the past, the spokesperson said: “He is not involved with the company today.” Further questions were not answered.

In December 2015, an NRA delegation including Pete Brownell, then the NRA’s first vice-president, and David Keene, a past NRA president, visited Russia for an expedition partly funded by Right to Bear Arms, a Russian pro-gun group run by Butina with help from Torshin, her alleged government handler.



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Maria Butina has been charged in the US with espionage for Russia. Photograph: Facebook
On 11 December, the NRA group visited the Orsis headquarters, where they met with Nikolaeva and other executives, as shown in video footage posted online by the company in 2016, which was first reported by Mother Jones. Several major NRA donors were also part of the delegation.

The NRA group, which also included David Clarke, then the sheriff of Milwaukee county and later a prominent campaign surrogate for Donald Trump, enjoyed meals and meetings with influential Russians including Dmitry Rogozin, the deputy prime minister. Rogozin’s son was previously an executive at Orsis. Clarke posted a photograph of himself holding an Orsis rifle to his Twitter account.

Nikolaev’s son, Andrey, is studying at Columbia University in New York. Andrey was quoted in an article about far-right speakers on campus that was published last year by a student journalist, and identified as a member of the Columbia University College Republicans. But his name was removed from the article following the identification of his father as a supporter of Butina.

Konstantin Nikolaev also has American business interests. He is a director on the board of American Ethane, a Texas-based energy company that recently signed $26bn dollar export deal with China. The agreement, signed as part of Trump’s official visit to Beijing last year, was championed by the president.

The Guardian disclosed earlier this month that a former chief of staff to Putin had a previously unreported investment in American Ethane. The former Putin aide, Alexander Voloshin, is part of a consortium of Russian investors in the firm that also previously included the London-based oligarch Roman Abramovich.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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Federal Investigators Have More Than 100 Trump-Related Tapes From Cohen
Federal investigators have seized more than 100 recordings that Michael Cohen made of conversations he had with people related to President Donald Trump and his business and campaign dealings, The Washington Post reported.

According to two people familiar with the tapes who spoke with the Post, a large swath of the recorded conversations are between Cohen and reporters who interviewed him during the campaign. Trump himself is heard on several of the tapes, but only in small doses, according to the Post. The most valuable recorded conversation between Trump and Cohen is the one that was released by Cohen’s attorney on Tuesday, where the two discuss a payment to a former Playboy model.

The majority of the recordings were made on an iPhone, without the other party’s knowledge. Cohen’s attorney Lenny Davis told the Post that Cohen’s intent with the recordings was never deception.

“Michael Cohen had the habit of using his phone to record conversations instead of taking notes,” Davis said.

The Trump team is reportedly contemplating whether to ask a court to rule on Cohen’s “indiscriminate release of material,” in the Post’s words. Trump’s advisers are also considering whether they should instead play along and release damning recordings of Cohen, according to two people close to the President.

Cohen reportedly decided to flip on Trump over feelings of personal betrayal, not as part of any significant legal strategy. Davis told the Post that Cohen had to “hit a reset button” and decided he didn’t want to “be a punching bag anymore.”
 

Freeloading Rusty

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Stupid question, but wasn't Cohen his lawyer at the time?
Yes.

Was taping his client unethical, I would assume so.. But I guess we will have to wait to hear the spin his slimy lawyer ass comes up with.

And I think Trump's new legal team waived client confidentiality for that last tape where Trump is talking cash payments.
 

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Yes.

Was taping his client unethical, I would assume so.. But I guess we will have to wait to hear the spin his slimy lawyer ass comes up with.

And I think Trump's new legal team waived client confidentiality for that last tape where Trump is talking cash payments.
If an accused terrorist had his conversations with his lawyers recorded by his lawyers & leaked to the media, would you just assume it was unethical or would you be sure of it?
 

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I love it. These guys will keep posting twitter news, memes, other news etc meanwhile nothing is happening to trump, nothing will happen to trump, trump will continue to be him and keep doing what he does, the country will keep doing better like it is now, and you little bitch boys can keep thinking about him 24/7 lol. Hang on reeeeeeal tight we got another 6 years of this my friends!
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Yes.

Was taping his client unethical, I would assume so.. But I guess we will have to wait to hear the spin his slimy lawyer ass comes up with.

And I think Trump's new legal team waived client confidentiality for that last tape where Trump is talking cash payments.
I'm not a lawyer, bu
Yes.

Was taping his client unethical, I would assume so.. But I guess we will have to wait to hear the spin his slimy lawyer ass comes up with.

And I think Trump's new legal team waived client confidentiality for that last tape where Trump is talking cash payments.
That's funny for a couple reasons. The least of which being that people think there'll be something important in there.
 

Ted Williams' head

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Donald Trump running around dropping loads on random chicks... I thought he was supposed to be a Republican? This sounds more like the behaviour of a Democrat president!

At least Trump had the decency to do that shit before he was President. At least Trump didn't have these whores all up in the White House like Mimi Beardsley and Monica Lewinsky.
 

MMAHAWK

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so who was it & why were the reporters chanting for Obama?
Almost better then a journalist. Turns out it was an illegal undocumented transgender woman invited to the White House. And obviously the media was cheering because they were literally nazis only 2 years ago.
 

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Almost better then a journalist. Turns out it was an illegal undocumented transgender woman invited to the White House. And obviously the media was cheering because they were literally nazis only 2 years ago.
wow. why do you, the democrats, & the press hate illegal transgendered people Belobog @Belobog?
 

MMAHAWK

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wow. why do you, the democrats, & the press hate illegal transgendered people Belobog @Belobog?
It’s hard to believe the amount of hate a bigotry they express.
Look at that his poor woman

I am a trans woman!” she shouted. “… No more deportation!” There were cheers and shouts of “Obama!” as the president — often adept at silencing rowdy crowds — shut down the interruption and had Gutiérrez escorted out. Obama said he was fine with a few hecklers, but not when he was “up in the house.”

“You know, my attitude is if you’re eating the hors d’oeuvres,” he said, “and drinking the booze … Anyway, where was I?”

But not long after Obama made jokes, some were defending Gutiérrez. She’s a 29-year-old transgender activist from Los Angeles — an undocumented immigrant trying to bring attention to the plight of trans women in immigration detention centers.


Transgender Obama heckler Jennicet Gutiérrez hailed by some LGBT activists
 

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It’s hard to believe the amount of hate a bigotry they express.
Look at that his poor woman

I am a trans woman!” she shouted. “… No more deportation!” There were cheers and shouts of “Obama!” as the president — often adept at silencing rowdy crowds — shut down the interruption and had Gutiérrez escorted out. Obama said he was fine with a few hecklers, but not when he was “up in the house.”

“You know, my attitude is if you’re eating the hors d’oeuvres,” he said, “and drinking the booze … Anyway, where was I?”

But not long after Obama made jokes, some were defending Gutiérrez. She’s a 29-year-old transgender activist from Los Angeles — an undocumented immigrant trying to bring attention to the plight of trans women in immigration detention centers.


Transgender Obama heckler Jennicet Gutiérrez hailed by some LGBT activists
the media is pathetic, one gets the sense that democrats don't care who you are, they just hate that we have a right to oppose them.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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If an accused terrorist had his conversations with his lawyers recorded by his lawyers & leaked to the media, would you just assume it was unethical or would you be sure of it?
Did this terrorist waive his client attorney privilege?

I was basing my assumption off the fact Cohen clearly knows the laws and its loopholes.