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Belobog

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Ahh shit beat me to it haha
Red Herring - a speaker attempts to distract an audience by deviating from the topic at hand by introducing a separate argument the speaker believes is easier to speak to. Argument given in response to another argument, which is irrelevant and draws attention away from the subject of argument.


Relative Privation
 

Zeph

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Jan 22, 2015
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Providing a needle exchange helps stop the spread of HIV, AIDs, and other diseases, which saves money in the long run by not having these ill people turn up at hospital needing care. Why is it you always post memes about shooting yourself in the foot?
 

jason73

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Providing a needle exchange helps stop the spread of HIV, AIDs, and other diseases, which saves money in the long run by not having these ill people turn up at hospital needing care. Why is it you always post memes about shooting yourself in the foot?
i disagree. we have safe injection sites and needle exchange and there is needles and junkies everywhere
 

jason73

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if the junkies would die off of their diseases then we would save money by having less junkies
 

BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
Jul 22, 2015
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Providing a needle exchange helps stop the spread of HIV, AIDs, and other diseases, which saves money in the long run by not having these ill people turn up at hospital needing care. Why is it you always post memes about shooting yourself in the foot?
or we could try treating addiction.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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You have to get access to the addicts to do that. Which is what happens at needle exchanges.
Supervised injection sites here do not have a treatment component. It's come, use, leave. Treatment also isn't regulated here, and isn't covered by universal health care. I don't believe any of these issues are unique to Canada seeing as our system is modeled after those of more progressive countries. Portugal is the only place that seems to have gotten it right, but in their case the government largely removed themselves from the drug trade rather than trying to run it.

It's laughable (but not surprising) that people think treatment of the issue should play second fiddle to a bandage solution to the symptom.
 

jason73

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our city bought a brand new RV and had it turned into a mobile safe injection site. it cost 200k a year to staff this thing and the whole downtown is still full of needles. you can have as many services as you want but you cant make people use them. a junkie doesnt care about himself so why would he care if you get poked by his dirty needle. it is not convenient for these scumbags to go to the injection van so they just boot up where they are and drop the needle on the ground.it is fucking disgusting. now regular people in their workplaces are carrying narcan kits in case someone ODs in their business. these fucxkers OD and get brought back to life like it is a game. they should let nature take its course and thin out the numbers of undesirable parasites. enabling them isnt helping.
Discarded needle goes through shoe of 6-year-old in Kelowna park
Impaled by needle at beach - Kelowna News
'Concerning' rise in needles - Kelowna News
Kelowna man finds 7,000 dirty needles in one week
Spring melt uncovers dirty needles in Vernon - Kelowna Capital News
Kelowna toddler ill after putting used needle in mouth
 

Freeloading Rusty

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Jan 11, 2016
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our city bought a brand new RV and had it turned into a mobile safe injection site. it cost 200k a year to staff this thing and the whole downtown is still full of needles. you can have as many services as you want but you cant make people use them. a junkie doesnt care about himself so why would he care if you get poked by his dirty needle. it is not convenient for these scumbags to go to the injection van so they just boot up where they are and drop the needle on the ground.it is fucking disgusting. now regular people in their workplaces are carrying narcan kits in case someone ODs in their business. these fucxkers OD and get brought back to life like it is a game. they should let nature take its course and thin out the numbers of undesirable parasites. enabling them isnt helping.
Discarded needle goes through shoe of 6-year-old in Kelowna park
Impaled by needle at beach - Kelowna News
'Concerning' rise in needles - Kelowna News
Kelowna man finds 7,000 dirty needles in one week
Spring melt uncovers dirty needles in Vernon - Kelowna Capital News
Kelowna toddler ill after putting used needle in mouth
Well that wasn’t a real safe injection site so you shouldn’t be surprised it didn’t provide adequate services. What you have in Kelowna is an overdose prevention site.

Big, big difference between a safe injection site and an overdose prevention site.

A real safe injection site is regulated by the Federal govt, provides medical services and provides clean needles.

Why would a needle user access a safe injection site with access to clean needles, then discard dirty needles in public? In a real safe injection site, dirty needles dont leave the establishment.

As well a real safe injection site is staffed by community nurses who have the ability to triage those who want to get clean into treatment services or give community referrals.
 
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