Society The Donald J. Trump Show - 4 more years editions

[KWingJitsu]

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[Hauler]

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From what I read, they decided to stop producing cars that weren't selling. That's a smart business decision.

Should the government keep subsidizing their failures like it did in 2012?

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

From what I read, they decided to stop producing cars that weren't selling. That's a smart business decision.

Should the government keep subsidizing their failures like it did in 2012?

How long can America keep its head in the sand when it comes to the future of vehicles?

Trump needs to accept electric cars, encourage people to use them and provide a climate in which companies want to produce them in America.

Trump alone cant stop the shift in automobiles, even with the support of all his deniers.

Whatever happened to creating an atmosphere where manufacturers wanted to make their products in America?

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

A good old retweet from Trump:

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[Disciplined Galt]

How long can America keep its head in the sand when it comes to the future of vehicles?

Trump needs to accept electric cars, encourage people to use them and provide a climate in which companies want to produce them in America.

Trump alone cant stop the shift in automobiles, even with the support of all his deniers.

Whatever happened to creating an atmosphere where manufacturers wanted to make their products in America?

Lol you’re not that stupid. What do you think the president of usa is in charge of?

 

[Hauler]

How long can America keep its head in the sand when it comes to the future of vehicles?

Trump needs to accept electric cars, encourage people to use them and provide a climate in which companies want to produce them in America.

Trump alone cant stop the shift in automobiles, even with the support of all his deniers.

Whatever happened to creating an atmosphere where manufacturers wanted to make their products in America?

It has little to do with Trump. Electric cars have been around since the mid 90's. I think that's when GM had their EV1 on the road until it was pulled off the production lines. That story goes a little deeper, but it wasn't Clinton's fault that the line of cars failed.

Switching over to electric cars will eventually happen, but it is a huge infrastructure challenge. Charging stations for longer trips would be a must, and they need to be convenient. It's one thing to put them in a city with millions of people, but what about out in the podunks? All across the country? Those people drive cars too.

The electric car is the future, but until they are both affordable and useable they are going to have a tough time with market share. And big oil will fight them every inch of the way.

 

[Lukewarm Carl]

From what I read, they decided to stop producing cars that weren't selling. That's a smart business decision

I agree fully. Ford has already cut out production of sedans as they weren't selling. I've never understood why GM has insisted on having so many American platforms making the same damn vehicles. Chevy, GMC, even Buick are all basically the same cars. Add in the trade deals and tariffs and failure was inevitable without changes.

 

[Sex Chicken]

The Prsident of the USA just tweeted this.

First of all it’s a desperate lie.

Secondly this fucking idiot doesn’t see anything wrong with a dictatorship where he locks up political opponents. If this clown had his way he would run the judiciary and lock people up with no trial. His whole presidency he has attempted to take power away from and discredit his own intelligence departments and stack the Supreme Court with lackies.
This ridiculous sack of shit needs a superman punch from the universe.

 

[Belobog]

The Prsident of the USA just tweeted this.

Last time I saw an image like that it was on the side of a mail bombing right-wing terrorist's van.

 

[KWingJitsu]

WATCH: Retired GM worker who voted for Trump unloads on the presidents' phony promises about jobs

 

[Sex Chicken]

Last time I saw an image like that it was on the side of a mail bombing right-wing terrorist's van.

Yep, and that’s all someone will need to form an opinion, tomorrow he’ll be in the coffee shop saying “In my opinion all those demo-rats should be locked up for treason.” He’ll be interviewed on Fox.

 

[KWingJitsu]

The Prsident of the USA just tweeted this.

First of all it’s a desperate lie.

Secondly this fucking idiot doesn’t see anything wrong with a dictatorship where he locks up political opponents. If this clown had his way he would run the judiciary and lock people up with no trial. His whole presidency he has attempted to take power away from and discredit his own intelligence departments and stack the Supreme Court with lackies.
This ridiculous sack of shit needs a superman punch from the universe.

As he gets older, his dementia expresses itself with the mentality of a teenage girl.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

From what I read, they decided to stop producing cars that weren't selling. That's a smart business decision.

Should the government keep subsidizing their failures like it did in 2012?

Firstly, no government should ever subsidize a business.

Secondly, I'm trying to figure out how people are blaming this on Trump.

(I'm not accusing you of this, it's just something I'm seeing quite a bit of throughout both this thread and the internet in general)

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

How long can America keep its head in the sand when it comes to the future of vehicles?

Trump needs to accept electric cars, encourage people to use them and provide a climate in which companies want to produce them in America.

Trump alone cant stop the shift in automobiles, even with the support of all his deniers.

Whatever happened to creating an atmosphere where manufacturers wanted to make their products in America?

Electric cars are still a ways off from being a reality. You're kind of sticking your head in the sand to deny that.

 

[Disciplined Galt]

The Prsident of the USA just tweeted this.

First of all it’s a desperate lie.

Secondly this fucking idiot doesn’t see anything wrong with a dictatorship where he locks up political opponents. If this clown had his way he would run the judiciary and lock people up with no trial. His whole presidency he has attempted to take power away from and discredit his own intelligence departments and stack the Supreme Court with lackies.
This ridiculous sack of shit needs a superman punch from the universe.

Your use of ad hominem made me tune you out.

 

[Disciplined Galt]

You grow up thinking people are inherently good and would have the sense not to let shit like this happen. Or if it did happen it would be subtle and done with some level of sophistication. Then this fucking dummy fucking bumbles his way to the presidency wearing his stupidity, and corruption, on his sleeve. It’s all so obvious and stupid and there are people cheering him on posting dumb memes and wearing stupid red MAGA hats. Too dumb to be embarrassed.

Yep, and that’s all someone will need to form an opinion, tomorrow he’ll be in the coffee shop saying “In my opinion all those demo-rats should be locked up for treason.” He’ll be interviewed on Fox.

Reeeeeeeeeeeeee! Trudeau love fest! Reeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

 

[Rambo John J]

I don't even know who the first one is supposed to be.

Which means you're probably very accurate.

im gaybo
and I live rent free in that "man's" head

 

[Lukewarm Carl]

im gaybo
and I live rent free in that "man's" head

Oooooh I get it now. The lack of a play on John J confused me.

Sometimes you get a little too Drunken Eddie Bravo for me but you're generally a neat fellow.

 

[Rambo John J]

Oooooh I get it now. The lack of a play on John J confused me.

Sometimes you get a little too Drunken Eddie Bravo for me but you're generally a neat fellow.

new perspectives can be scary, I get it
Eddie does talk about some dark shit

Spoiler

some legit and some misguided

Spoiler

Look into it

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

Electric cars are still a ways off from being a reality. You're kind of sticking your head in the sand to deny that.

Yet steps still need to be taken to accommodate that shift towards electric.

Cutting subsidies and discouraging the use of them is creating an atmosphere where companies who produce them will move along.

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

Switching over to electric cars will eventually happen, but it is a huge infrastructure challenge. Charging stations for longer trips would be a must, and they need to be convenient. It's one thing to put them in a city with millions of people, but what about out in the podunks? All across the country? Those people drive cars too.

The electric car is the future, but until they are both affordable and useable they are going to have a tough time with market share. And big oil will fight them every inch of the way.

IMO.. They are affordable and usable for over half of the vehicle use in USA and Canada.

We have charging stations all across BC, it cant be that hard.

The majority of the population lives within cities. Most families own more than one car. It is feasible to think within the next 20 years, all family units or single people who own two or more automobiles, one could be electric. That alone would account for a reduction of gas vehicles at a significant level.

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

Reeeeeeeeeeeeee! Trudeau love fest! Reeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

Yet steps still need to be taken to accommodate that shift towards electric.

The industry was moving that direction long before the Inconvenient Truth hit theaters. One could make an argument that the rebates and tax benefits have actually slowed the advancement of full electrics because the incentive is given for producing the stop gap rather than making it to the end goal.

Cutting subsidies and discouraging the use of them is creating an atmosphere where companies who produce them will move along.

The problem with that line of thinking is that the company who just closed a bunch of factories "cuz electric cars" also just ended production of their lone electric car.

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

Trump threatens to declassify ‘devastating’ docs about Democrats'

In a wide-ranging, exclusive interview with The Post, President Trump said Wednesday that if House Democrats launched probes into his administration — which he called “presidential harassment” — they’d pay a heavy price.

“If they go down the presidential harassment track, if they want go and harass the president and the administration, I think that would be the best thing that would happen to me. I’m a counter-puncher and I will hit them so hard they’d never been hit like that,” he said during a 36-minute Oval Office sitdown.

The commander-in-chief said he could declassify FISA warrant applications and other documents from Robert Mueller’s probe — and predicted the disclosure would expose the FBI, the Justice Department and the Clinton campaign as being in cahoots to set him up.

“I think that would help my campaign. If they want to play tough, I will do it. They will see how devastating those pages are.”

But Trump told The Post he wanted to save the documents until they were needed.

“It’s much more powerful if I do it then,” Trump said, “because if we had done it already, it would already be yesterday’s news.”

Trump revealed his playbook just as Democrats are set to take over House committees in January where they are poised to investigate his potential business conflicts of interests, tax returns, Russia dealings and more.

With the GOP losing power in January, its congressional investigations into alleged Department of Justice misconduct in launching the Russia probe is expected to fizzle out.

In September, a group of Trump allies in the House – led by Rep. Lee Zeldin of New York – called on Trump to declassify scores of Justice Department documents they believe undercut the start of the Russia investigation and show bias against Trump.

The documents include Justice officials’ request to surveil Trump campaign adviser Carter Page and memos on DOJ official Bruce Ohr’s interactions with Christopher Steele, the author of a controversial dossier that alleged Trump ties with Russia.

Trump initially agreed to declassify the documents, including text messages sent by former FBI officials James Comey, Andrew G. McCabe as well as Peter Strzok, Lisa Page and Ohr. Trump allies believe the revelations will show favoritism toward Hillary Clinton and a plot to take down Trump.

Trump then reversed course, citing the need for further review and concern of US allies.

Trump added Wednesday that his lawyer Emmet Flood thought it would be better politically to wait.

“He didn’t want me to do it yet, because I can save it,” Trump said.

The president also pushed back on the notion that all the Justice Department documents should eventually be released for the sake of transparency.

“Some things maybe the public shouldn’t see because they are so bad,” Trump said, making clear it wasn’t damaging to him, but to others. “Maybe it’s better that the public not see what’s been going on with this country.”

Senate panel cancels votes on Trump court picks amid Flake standoff

Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) announced Wednesday that he is canceling votes on nearly two dozen of President Trump’s judicial nominees that were expected to come up in the Judiciary Committee this week.

The cancellation of the committee’s Thursday business meeting comes as Senate Republicans are in a standoff with outgoing Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), who has vowed to oppose all court picks until he gets a vote on legislation protecting special counsel Robert Mueller.

The notification from the Judiciary Committee didn’t specify when, or if, the committee votes on the nominations would be rescheduled. Six circuit court nominees had been expected to get a vote, as well as 15 district court nominees.

But Grassley warned late Wednesday afternoon that he would likely cancel the meeting unless he could get a deal with Flake that would allow the nominations to move forward.

“We haven’t canceled the meeting yet,” Grassley said roughly an hour before the announcement. “If we don’t get a positive out of it, we’ll probably cancel the meeting.”

Republicans hold a 51-49 majority in the Senate, allowing them to move Trump's nominees despite Flake as long as the remaining 50 Republican senators remain united.

But on the Judiciary Committee Republicans are limited to a 11-10 majority, meaning they need Flake's support unless they can get help from Democrats.

"We can vote on all the people who cleared the committee," said Sen. John Cornyn (Texas), the No. 2 Republican senator and a member of the Judiciary Committee. "But in terms of getting a vote out of committee, we need his help."

Flake reiterated earlier Wednesday that he remains committed to opposing nominees until he gets a vote on the Mueller protection bill. He tried to get consent to schedule a vote on the bill Wednesday but was blocked by Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah), who warned that the legislation was unconstitutional.

The resolution, which cleared the Judiciary Committee earlier this year, would protect Mueller, or any other special counsel, in the event he is fired, but the bill has stalled amid opposition from GOP leadership.

The bill would codify Justice Department regulations that say only a senior department official could fire Mueller or another special counsel.

It would give a special counsel an "expedited review" of their firing. If a court determines that it wasn't for "good cause," the special counsel would be reinstated.

Graham threatens to abstain from voting until CIA briefs Senate on Khashoggi killing

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Wednesday threatened to withhold any “key vote” until the CIA briefs the Senate on its assessment of whether Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman ordered the killing of U.S.-based journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

“Anything that you need me for to get out of town, I ain’t doing it until we hear from the CIA,” Graham told reporters after a briefing from Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Defense Secretary James Mattis on U.S.-Saudi relations.

Mattis and Pompeo focused their efforts on trying to persuade senators to oppose a resolution coming up for a first vote Wednesday afternoon that would end U.S. military support for the Saudi-led coalition's military operations in Yemen in the wake of Khashoggi's death inside the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul last month.

Senators were hoping the briefing would involve CIA Director Gina Haspel, who previously traveled to Turkey to review its evidence in the Khashoggi case, including an audio recording of his dying moments. The CIA has reportedly concluded that Crown Prince Mohammed ordered the murder of Khashoggi, a Washington Post contributor.

Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said Wednesday that Pompeo and Mattis confirmed the White House prevented Haspel from attending the Senate briefing.

In a statement later Wednesday, the CIA denied Haspel was blocked from attending.

“While Director Haspel did not attend today’s Yemen policy briefing, the agency has already briefed the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and congressional leadership on the totality of the compartmented, classified intelligence and will continue to provide updates on this important matter to policymakers and Congress," CIA Press Secretary Timothy Barrett said. "The notion that anyone told Director Haspel not to attend today's briefing is false.”

President Trump has pushed back on reports of the CIA’s assessment, and Pompeo said Wednesday there is no “direct reporting” from U.S. intelligence connecting Crown Prince Mohammed to the kill order.

But senators remain skeptical that the operation could have been carried out without the approval of the crown prince, who is the kingdom’s day-to-day leader.

Graham called Wednesday’s briefing “inadequate” because it lacked a representative from the CIA.

“I’m not going to blow past this,” he said. “So if that briefing is not given soon, it’s going to be hard for me to vote for any spending bill.”

Asked if he was only threatening to withhold votes on the spending bill, Graham said he was “talking about any key vote.”

Further asked if he’s made his stance clear to Trump, Graham said he “just did.”

Congress has until Dec. 7 to pass a spending bill covering several government agencies and to avert a partial government shutdown.

One of the outstanding spending bills is for the State Department, and Graham chairs the Appropriations subcommittee responsible for that measure.

Negotiations on a spending bill have already been complicated by Trump’s insistence that it include funding for his proposed wall on the southern border.

The Senate has also teed up confirmation votes on several federal judges, a key priority for Republicans. But that effort, too, has been complicated by Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), who is withholding his votes until the Senate considers his bill to protect the special counsel's investigation into Russian election interference.

 

[Rambo John J]

IMO.. They are affordable and usable for over half of the vehicle use in USA and Canada.

We have charging stations all across BC, it cant be that hard.

The majority of the population lives within cities. Most families own more than one car. It is feasible to think within the next 20 years, all family units or single people who own two or more automobiles, one could be electric. That alone would account for a reduction of gas vehicles at a significant level.

Gas sales are big money