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BeardOfKnowledge

BeardOfKnowledge

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MC Gusto said:
Gottcha. So because GM killed the Volt or whatever it was called they are now out of the electric vehicle business. I will have to take your word for it.
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They also killed the EV1 in the 90's, and the hybrid pickup, and the hybrid fullsize SUV in the 2000's. GM's general MO is to produce something first and then abandon it.

Is it possible that GM is moving to two places known for sub par quality control, and cheap labor to build extremely complicated products? Sure, it's possible. Is it more likely that they're going there to focus on building the SUV's and trucks that make up the vast majority of their business? Well, I know what I'd be betting on. Either way, I'm not that likely to take the word of a company who just fucked over the public the way they did.
 
MMAHAWK

MMAHAWK

Real Gs come from California.America Muthafucker
Feb 5, 2015
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MC Gusto said:
IMO.. They are affordable and usable for over half of the vehicle use in USA and Canada.

We have charging stations all across BC, it cant be that hard.

The majority of the population lives within cities. Most families own more than one car. It is feasible to think within the next 20 years, all family units or single people who own two or more automobiles, one could be electric. That alone would account for a reduction of gas vehicles at a significant level.
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No way as long as this is the case.

 
Freeloading Rusty

Freeloading Rusty

Here comes Rover, sniffin’ at your ass
Jan 11, 2016
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View: https://twitter.com/MikeSington/status/1067514730573492225

Senate defies Trump, backs legislation calling for end to U.S. involvement in Saudi-led war in Yemen
Defying U.S. President Donald Trump, senators sent a strong signal Wednesday that they want to punish Saudi Arabia for its role in the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi. By a bipartisan 63-37 vote, the Senate opted to move forward with legislation calling for an end to U.S. involvement in the Saudi-led war in Yemen.

The vote was a rebuke not only to Saudi Arabia but also to Trump’s administration, which has made clear it does not want to torpedo the long-standing U.S. relationship with Riyadh over the killing.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Secretary of Defence James Mattis both came to Capitol Hill to urgently lobby against the resolution, which would call for an end to U.S. military assistance for the conflict that human rights advocates say is wreaking havoc on Yemen and subjecting civilians to indiscriminate bombing.

The vote showed a significant number of Republicans were willing to break with Trump to express their deep dissatisfaction with Saudi Arabia and with the U.S. response to Khashoggi’s brutal killing in Turkey last month. U.S. intelligence officials have concluded that the Saudi crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, must have at least known of the plot, but Trump has equivocated over who was to blame.

Khashoggi, who lived in the U.S. and wrote for The Washington Post, was publicly critical of the Saudi crown prince. He was killed in what U.S. officials have described as an elaborate plot at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, which he had visited for marriage paperwork.


Echoing Trump’s public comments on the killing, Pompeo said after Wednesday’s briefing with senators that there was “no direct reporting” connecting the crown prince to the murder, and Mattis said there was “no smoking gun” making the connection.

Pompeo argued that the war in Yemen would be “a hell of a lot worse” if the United States were not involved.

Wednesday’s procedural vote sets up a floor debate on the resolution next week. It would be largely a symbolic move, however, as House Republican leaders have given no indication they would take up the war powers measure before the end of the year – the end of the current Congress.

Several senators said they were angry about the absence of CIA Director Gina Haspel from the pre-vote briefing.

New Jersey Sen. Bob Menendez, the top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, speculated that Haspel didn’t attend because she “would have said with a high degree of confidence that the crown prince of Saudi Arabia was involved in the murder of Jamal Khashoggi.”
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MMAHAWK

MMAHAWK

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MC Gusto said:
And for a second vehicle that gets driven less than a 100 miles per day (not even a full charge), is it that unreasonable to have to charge it for a couple hours over night?
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So you have to have 2 vehicles To realistically own an electric one. Getting 2/3 of the way to Vegas and having to charge for 4 hours doesn’t seem to reasonable. If it has to be a second vehicle then it’s definitely not a great option for half the population.
 
Freeloading Rusty

Freeloading Rusty

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MMAHAWK said:
So you have to have 2 vehicles To realistically own an electric one. Getting 2/3 of the way to Vegas and having to charge for 4 hours doesn’t seem to reasonable. If it has to be a second vehicle then it’s definitely not a great option for half the population.
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I didnt say someone should own two vehicles just so they could own an electric one. And I already stated an electric vehicle is not currently viable for everyone. One step at a time.

I said the first step towards a shift towards electric is capturing the 2 or more vehicle families (or individuals) chunk of the market to make that second vehicle an electric one. It is far from the norm both family vehicles put on hundreds of miles per day. As well, only one family vehicle is needed to make long distant family trips or business trips. I think a good percent of those who own two vehicles could manage with the second family vehicle to be an electric one. I think that would be a good start in the inevitable shift away from gas vehicles.

To dig our heels in and try to avoid the shift towards electric is just going to make it that much harder when gas becomes cost prohibitive and/or unrealistic.

China is on route to be rid of gas combustion commuter vehicles within another decade, how can they manage but us westerners cant?
 
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Hauler

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Just got a text from my Super Lib friend and she said "It's just a matter of time" for Trump to get impeached. She is over the moon excited about this Cohen thing.


I gave her one of these...



...and said "Whatever you say, Margo"
 
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