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Andrewsimar Palhardass

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point proven they did it for money.. they knew he didn't stand a chance.. money is king... logic goes out the window when money is the only thing that matters
Yes, it is about money. How does fixing the fight get them more money? Also, if they knew he didn't stand a chance (which they did), why would they need to fix the fight?
 

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Andrewsimar Palhardass @Andrewsimar Palhardass

there is no "expert" on this stuff

The debate going on right now is bringing much more eyeballs than a 3 round spar

I don't know for sure either way...but to completely dismiss some antics is pretty silly also

SaulGoodman we can all have an opinion
 

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You just defeated your own idea imo.

If they're going to fix a fight for Floyd to win (which is stupid in the first place because Floyd was always going to win), why did they do it against their big prospect? Nobody gains from that.
Your entire premise is based on Floyd walking thru the kid and that is very flawed logic.....
 

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I just watched it on my tv. Complete fix. Don't even know why it's a conversation otherwise
 

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its so evident that it was a work.. Robin black is exactly right.. all his points are valid and like he said they've always done this type of shit...inoki
 

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Sakakibara is a fool if he thinks this SHIT BURGER of a fix is going to get ANYONE in America excited about his org.....

He has zero idea what Americans want and this goes back to PRIDE.....
 

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I just watched it on my tv. Complete fix. Don't even know why it's a conversation otherwise
because ppl think there has to be logic to everything.. the only logical thing here is that it was a terrible fix... when he fell the first time that flipping over and flailing read so dramatic especially when that right hand was a mile away.. you don't go from being that hurt to gettin right up and moving normal.. that's just not how shit works... it's mind boggling ppl think it isn't
 

Andrewsimar Palhardass

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Andrewsimar Palhardass @Andrewsimar Palhardass

there is no "expert" on this stuff

The debate going on right now is bringing much more eyeballs than a 3 round spar

I don't know for sure either way...but to completely dismiss some antics is pretty silly also

SaulGoodman we can all have an opinion
I was referring to Caposa being an expert in Japanese combat sports, not saying that he is an expert on fixes.
 

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Can you elaborate?
Not even gonna go into.details on how talented Tenshin is and how he could have caused Floyd a lot of problems.

This fix stinks like week old fish. It is a joke on every level. On of the most poorly acted fixes I have ever seen. If u think this fight is legit you don't have a clue what you are watching. It is LAUGHABLE......
 

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I was referring to Caposa being an expert in Japanese combat sports, not saying that he is an expert on fixes.
Fair enough...But tons of Fans have seen thousands and thousands of matches...our eyes tell us what they tell us and unless betting or emotionally invested our eyes are justified in having an opinion on the body language of the match

I do like Caposa

wasn't casting shade on you, you tagged me so I tagged you back with my take
 

Andrewsimar Palhardass

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Not even gonna go into.details on how talented Tenshin is and how he could have caused Floyd a lot of problems.

This fix stinks like week old fish. It is a joke on every level. On of the most poorly acted fixes I have ever seen. If u think this fight is legit you don't have a clue what you are watching. It is LAUGHABLE......
Firstly, relax. Haha Jesus Christ.

Second, I know how good Tenshin is. You really think he could have given Floyd a lot of problems in a boxing match? He's not even been alive as long as Floyd has been a world beater.
 

Andrewsimar Palhardass

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Fair enough...But tons of Fans have seen thousands and thousands of matches...our eyes tell us what they tell us and unless betting or emotionally invested our eyes are justified in having an opinion on the body language of the match

I do like Caposa

wasn't casting shade on you, you tagged me so I tagged you back with my take
I know you weren't. No worries.

I'm not emotionally invested at all. As you know, I am generally just a skeptic when it comes to conspiracy. Not always, but in a lot of situations I am.
 

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because ppl think there has to be logic to everything.. the only logical thing here is that it was a terrible fix... when he fell the first time that flipping over and flailing read so dramatic especially when that right hand was a mile away.. you don't go from being that hurt to gettin right up and moving normal.. that's just not how shit works... it's mind boggling ppl think it isn't
It is sad if anyone thinks this isn't pro wrasslin' level nonsense.

Robin Black points it all out.

And there is logic to it: Sakakibara thinks Americans will find out about and be interested in Tenshin like with Conor if he puts him against Floyd. The problem is is that Sakakibara is fucking clueless and doesn't realize that Americans don't appreciate fixed fights.