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Freeloading Rusty

Freeloading Rusty

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Networks plan to carry Dem response to Trump primetime address
Most major broadcast networks indicated Tuesday they plan to carry the Democratic response to President Trump's primetime address from the Oval Office on the partial government shutdown and the situation at the southern border.

Fox News, Fox Business, NBC, CBS and CNN each said it would air both Trump's speech and Democrats' response live on Tuesday night after Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-N.Y.) requested equal air time following the president's address.

Fox, Fox News and ABC have said they will carry Trump's speech live, but did not respond to requests for comment about whether the Democratic response will air live.

Trump announced in a tweet Monday that he planned to address the nation on "the Humanitarian and National Security crisis on our Southern Border."

Networks did not immediately indicate that they would air the president's remarks live amid concerns from critics over the merits of airing a political message, and whether he would use the time to spread inaccurate claims.

Each of the major broadcast networks ultimately said it would broadcast the president's speech live. CBS said the address will last no more than eight minutes, according to the White House.

Democrats then asked for equal air time to respond. Schumer and Pelosi said Tuesday they would deliver the speech.

Networks in 2011 gave Republicans air time to respond to President Obama's speech over the debt ceiling.

Trump is expected to use the speech to plead his case for funding his desired wall along the U.S.-Mexico border. He has demanded more than $5 billion in funding for the structure, which triggered a partial government shutdown that has lasted 18 days and counting.

The president is set to travel to the southern border on Thursday.

With Tuesday's remarks, Trump will address the nation twice in the span of two weeks after he said he would deliver the 2019 State of the Union on Jan. 29.
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kneeblock

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ConorMcGregorsBeard said:
and that's where it starts and ends. People who apply to be paperclip sorters are doing so knowing the chances of the job entailing mortal risk are zero.



and those are very valid conversations that should be had, but they aren't necessarily germane to the topic of someone equating bureaucratic creations with the military.
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Should we use coal miners then? The point is that risk isn't germane to whether government is the source of job creation. The risk is created by policy makers and the bureaucracy in the same way that the so called paper pushing jobs are. A naval ensign off the coast of the Guam is literally no different from an administrative assistant in the Bureau of Wildlife management's Jackson, Wyoming office except someone over their head has maybe decided to make their day harder or easier.
 
Pitbull9

Pitbull9

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Jan 28, 2015
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MC Gusto said:
Trump said ISIS has been defeated.

John Bolton (National Security Advisor) has said America would stay in Syria until "ISIS is gone" & they actually defeated ISIS.

... But keep on rationalizing this shit as long as it helps make you feel better about it, 'big boy'.
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Isis has been defeated but that doesnt mean they are all gone only an idiot would think that. Trump knows they still exist but the caliphate is done and they lost almost all their positioning. Isis will never be gone, neither will hamas, hezbollah, al queda etc. As long as the rats can hide they will always be around.
 
BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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Maroon said:
Should we use coal miners then?
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Do coal miners do the desired bidding of the populace regardless the potential consequences?


Maroon said:
A naval ensign off the coast of the Guam is literally no different from an administrative assistant in the Bureau of Wildlife management's Jackson, Wyoming office except someone over their head has maybe decided to make their day harder or easier.
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Except that the dude in Wyoming gets weekends, and evenings to do with as he pleases. There's also a 0 percent chance that the dude in Wyoming can get a phone call saying he's being moved to Kabul National Park because they're short staffed. The sacrifice that military servicepeople make is so vastly different from any other publicly funded occupation it's kind of laughable that people are trying to create an equivalence.
 
BeardOfKnowledge

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lordofthepies said:
Clearly I was not referring to the entire military being analogous to the types of jobs Jason was referring to, just the jobs within the military that are analogous to those jobs. And you knew that - which is why you initially tried a different argument.
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You can't possibly have meant that, because what you're referring to doesn't exist. Jobs in the military, even paper pushing ones, are assigned and you don't know that what you're doing until you're doing it.

What happened is you said something absurd. When you got called on it, you came out guns a blazing name calling and all. Now, you're trying to weasel out of admitting you were wrong for saying it to begin with.
 
Sheepdog

Sheepdog

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ConorMcGregorsBeard said:
You can't possibly have meant that, because what you're referring to doesn't exist. Jobs in the military, even paper pushing ones, are assigned and you don't know that what you're doing until you're doing it.

What happened is you said something absurd. When you got called on it, you came out guns a blazing name calling and all. Now, you're trying to weasel out of admitting you were wrong for saying it to begin with.
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Lol
 
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So how does this government shutdown end?

Trump won't get funding for the wall but he doesn't want to back down.

And he's far too stupid to convince the American public (aside from his base of mental retards) that the wall is necessary.

I'm not against the wall, but he needs to give up trying to get Congress to approve spending for it. It's not gonna happen.
 
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lordofthepies said:
Clearly I was not referring to the entire military being analogous to the types of jobs Jason was referring to, just the jobs within the military that are analogous to those jobs.
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My cousin was in the U.S. Navy for 6 years.

During one six-month posting at a naval base, he told me he worked a job that had zero supervision. Something with records that nobody ever came in to check.

So he found a cubby hole-type hiding spot big enough for him to lie down completely in. Said for 6 months all he did was sleep for 95% of his shifts.
 
Pitbull9

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conor mcgregor nut hugger said:
No



Yes
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Im def not sitting here and saying the guy isnt a liar lol. Again dont mistake me as a fan of Trump the man, I am a fan of what he is doing, trying to do, and the improvements we are seeing. I am a fan and a supporter of anyone who makes this country better. Sure not everyone will always be on the side of "better" but if the country as a whole is doing better like it is now, I will take that. 317k new jobs, stocks are killing it again because of low oil, high jobs, better wages, progress with china etc. That is all because of Trump, hate him or not. Obama did nothing for 8 years im sorry and i voted for him in 08.
 
Pitbull9

Pitbull9

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conor mcgregor nut hugger said:
Yeah the whole "Mexico is payingfor the wall through the USMCA" argument was laughable.
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It shouldnt be. That is the truth. Think of it this way. If you had to pay for something intially, but the money you made on the back end of a deal indirectly gave you that money back, then yes that person paid for it.
 
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Pitbull9 said:
It shouldnt be. That is the truth. Think of it this way. If you had to pay for something intially, but the money you made on the back end of a deal indirectly gave you that money back, then yes that person paid for it.
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No. Mexico is not paying more, so Mexico is not paying for the wall.
 
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Pelosi - terrible speaker, breathes heavily into mic, not convincing

Schumer - best speech of the night. Great job neutralizing his New York accent. Was convincing, terse, effective. Closed well.

For any second-language speakers reading this, please know that a New York or New Jersey accent is never good in any situation.

Ever.
 
Freeloading Rusty

Freeloading Rusty

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Pitbull9 said:
Isis has been defeated but that doesnt mean they are all gone only an idiot would think that. Trump knows they still exist but the caliphate is done and they lost almost all their positioning. Isis will never be gone, neither will hamas, hezbollah, al queda etc. As long as the rats can hide they will always be around.
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The National Security Advisor just said ISIS was not defeated.

What is your definition of defeated?

From Bolton just the other day:
Bolton also said Trump "wants the ISIS caliphate destroyed," a reference to Islamic State militants in Syria who have been the focus of US assaults, according to Reuters.

Later Sunday, in a news conference with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Bolton again alluded to the welfare of US-backed Kurds. In addition to ensuring that ISIS is defeated and cannot "revive itself,"
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