I think you agree with me or I agree with you. Just in different words lol. Vince hated the fact he didn't control it. So of course it didn't last. All reports of Vince hating it just makes so MUCH VINCE SENSE.
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Vince never saw it until it got popular
Then he sabotaged it & then said "see nobody watches"
What happened with the Stone Cold podcast? Was it the whole Dean/Brock thing on there? I forget. That show was better than most Raws.
And you're 100 percent correct on Roman behind the scenes. He's a gem.
Vince hated the Dean thing, but I think it was more Austin's call
Austin has nobody critiquing him on Podcast one
He had Vince once a month on the network
Started off with VKM not over-producing but ....
Then VKM did it with Bruce/Conrad too (Conrad is a buddy)
He said "its your show" then made edits & gave notes lol
Conrad is a star in the making. In my opinion. He could be an amazing voice for professional wrestling.
Notice how Tony & AEW saw that but not Vince?
Again it proves my point(s) about Vince
Mauro with Graves doing PBP & Renee & Conrad with interviews/talk shows
But Vince refuses to see what others do
He forced AEW to happen buy being creatively inept
I will be 100% honest. The pure hatred for VKM to the point where he can do no right was kind of annoying. Got to the point where I thought he went to your tanning salon or something.
However now, its generally really really humorous. After the ending to Raw, I am willing to be on board. After next week’s Raw endinf, I will revaluate.
Cheers
However now, its generally really really humorous. After the ending to Raw, I am willing to be on board. After next week’s Raw endinf, I will revaluate.
Cheers
I am assuming you mean me, but you did not quote/tag ...
You can counter or put me on ignore IDC
If you discuss VKM honestly, you have to discuss how bad he is creatively
Also those that follow the business end, know that Vince ass was saved by George Barrios & Michele Wilson making the deals that brought the company value up
Simply put ...
The three biggest new stars in the past decade were Punk, Bryan & Lynch
Vince did not see any as a main eventer to build the company around, but the fans forced his hand
He deliberately did things to hold Punk & Bryan back & meanwhile shoved a 4 year Roman Reigns experiment down fans throats & had the last 3 years of Mania's main event ruined
Brock (who usually doesn't care) even threw the belt at Vince after last years Mania.
If you watch NXT at all, you can see the difference in philosophy & booking & how Vince lacks
House show business lost money in Q3 of 2018.
First time in about 25 years
In 2017:
UFC made about $300m profit from about $725-750m in rev
WWE made about $35m profit from $800m in rev
That means VKM spent $95 to make $5
That is why he turned a lot of the biz to Barrios & wilson
Now he needs to do the same creatively with HHH
Bottom line:
TV needing live programming & Saudi Arabia saved Vince ass
Hmnnnn
I was never disagreeing with you on that. I am not particularly fond of Vince either.
Not a personal attack in the slightest bit, my man
Edit: Actually agree with you on a majority of everything you say. What I meant by that initial post was that notice a decent amount of your posts being flavored with how Vince is an idiot. We all know the man is an idiot. Did not mean to make it sound like an insult.
One last thing, what i meant, is that
You can count on me having a less counter productive stance than that.
Indeed. Certainly wasn’t trying to defend the guy by making reference to his sexual assault accusation at a tanning salon haha.
You can count on me having a less counter productive stance than that.