Should Europe brace themselves for....

[delightone]

I truly hope you and your family will never have to go trough some thing like this.
People tend to forget that they are humans, who are looking for a safe environment for there family.
I would have done exactly the same, and most of you would do the same for your family.

The ironic thing is we are the one's that are bringing "FREEDOM" to their country's direct or indirectly but we don't want to deal with the aftermath.

Last week 72 people died in a truck in austria looking for safety, you think they are doing this to come here an plan attacks?

 

[delightone]

Very glad my father doesn't travel to France all the time anymore.

This is exactly my point, your glad your father is not at risk.
Well those people are fleeing a warzone in the hope there family will survive.
That they are muslim, Christian, Jewish shouldn't be a factor in this.

 

[ThatOneDude]

I truly hope you and your family will never have to go trough some thing like this.
People tend to forget that they are humans, who are looking for a safe environment for there family.
I would have done exactly the same, and most of you would do the same for your family.

The ironic thing is we are the one's that are bringing "FREEDOM" to their country's direct or indirectly but we don't want to deal with the aftermath.

Last week 72 people died in a truck in austria looking for safety, you think they are doing this to come here an plan attacks?

No, and I said earlier, the majority are good people. I don't blame them for wanting to get out. And you're right I'd want to also.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

I truly hope you and your family will never have to go trough some thing like this.
People tend to forget that they are humans, who are looking for a safe environment for there family.
I would have done exactly the same, and most of you would do the same for your family.

The ironic thing is we are the one's that are bringing "FREEDOM" to their country's direct or indirectly but we don't want to deal with the aftermath.

Last week 72 people died in a truck in austria looking for safety, you think they are doing this to come here an plan attacks?

I agree with every part of your post, but any idea why more aren't sticking around to help out? When my father and his family left their homeland it was after the oppressors had been overthrown, not before/during.

 

[Psychotropic Wanderlust]

The problem is one of those runs on TV all the fucking time, that other I'm literally just seeing for the first time now. To be honest, I"ll be surprised if the Conservative don't win again.

if the conservatives get in again I am seriously considering leaving Canada. where is the benefit?

 

[Hired Gun]

Over Night

BUDAPEST, Hungary – Hungary suspended all rail traffic Tuesday from its main terminal in Budapest and cleared the train station of hundreds of migrants trying to board trains for Austria and Germany — the hoped-for end destinations in their flight from turmoil in the Mideast and Asia.

The closure of the station appeared prompted in part by pressure from other European Union nations trying to cope with the influx of thousands of migrants flowing through Hungary. Europe has been overwhelmed by a surge of migrants, with over 332,000 arriving so far this year, according to the International Organization for Migration.

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[Team Bisping]

I truly hope you and your family will never have to go trough some thing like this.
People tend to forget that they are humans, who are looking for a safe environment for there family.
I would have done exactly the same, and most of you would do the same for your family.

The ironic thing is we are the one's that are bringing "FREEDOM" to their country's direct or indirectly but we don't want to deal with the aftermath.

Last week 72 people died in a truck in austria looking for safety, you think they are doing this to come here an plan attacks?

Great post, we are all too quick to forget they are humans looking for a better life. I hope as a nation we can provide a safe haven for asylum seekers whilst also being able to screen for potential bad apples. It's a complex situation and could never blame a man and his family for wanting a safer life.

 

[Hired Gun]

We can assume for discussion that a over whelming amount of the people are non terrorist and have no intentions of committing crime. There are several issues with this. Over loading the system is one, where do you house them, feed them, give them medical care? It all costs major major money and right now we are in a economic recession globally. Money has to come from somewhere. This brings up another point where do this many people find jobs and if they can't what will they do for money?

 

[Hired Gun]

Great post, we are all too quick to forget they are humans looking for a better life. I hope as a nation we can provide a safe haven for asylum seekers whilst also being able to screen for potential bad apples. It's a complex situation and could never blame a man and his family for wanting a safer life.

I fault no one for wanting a better life for their families but there is a tipping point where countries cannot support them. It sucks and the world is a harsh harsh place. If they started sending them back to their country of origin then the deaths caused by them trying to migrate here would lesson knowing that the trek will be null in void when they are returned home.

 

[Punch]

 

[Leigh]

I fault no one for wanting a better life for their families but there is a tipping point where countries cannot support them. It sucks and the world is a harsh harsh place. If they started sending them back to their country of origin then the deaths caused by them trying to migrate here would lesson knowing that the trek will be null in void when they are returned home.

These aren't people looking for just a "better life", they are looking for asylum.

 

[Punch]

i agree with you @Zeph, it IS pretty damn optimistic.

 

[Zeph]

i agree with you @Zeph, it IS pretty damn optimistic.

Well, I also disagree that identifying with a group is inherently violent act. Elevating that group above others would be what I consider inherently violent.

 

[Punch]

Well I also, disagree that identifying with a group is inherently violent act. Elevating that group above others would be what I consider inherently violent.

This is valid point. I don't think that identifying with a group is inherently violent, but the separation from other groups and subsequent "isms" that can arise from it can definitely promote a culture of "us vs. them" which i don't generally like.

There are always exceptions though.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

if the conservatives get in again I am seriously considering leaving Canada. where is the benefit?

I won't. There's nowhere for someone born in this country to go.

 

[lookoutawhale]

There were these series of really poignant photos back in June

Thousands of Syrian refugees were fleeing to get to the Turkish border. People with their families just trying to get out but then ISIS intercepted them on the border just a few yards from the border and made them all come back at gun point. It was pretty crazy. Felt sorry for the people fleeing. They could see their freedom a few metres away and then bam.. sent back and probably punished.

The terrorists then laughed about it and at the Turkish border soldiers that could do nothing but just watch as helpless people get taken back to ISIS hands.

ISIS terrorists stopped the group of refugees just yards from the border in full view of Turkish troops who were powerless to intervene

The terrorists laughed with each other as they forced to the civilians back to the warzone even though heavy fighting is imminent

Turkish troops and Isis terrorists stared at each other just a few yards apart across the barbed wire border as the civilians retreated

Heavily-armed terrorists, some carrying U.S. AR-15 assault rifles forced the civilians back to the rapidly approaching warzone

• Some 13,000 refugees crossed the border at Tal Abyad over the past 10 days according to Turkish officials handling the crisis
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  The refugees were hauling everything they could possibly carry in an effort to cross the border to freedom and away from ISIS
  
  
  
  
  
  ISIS is facing being attacked by Syrian-Kurdish fighters who are advancing on the town of Tal Abyad, pictured
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• ISIS intercepts hundreds of Syrian refugees fleeing across Turkish border | Daily Mail Online

 

[delightone]

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I agree with every part of your post, but any idea why more aren't sticking around to help out? When my father and his family left their homeland it was after the oppressors had been overthrown, not before/during.

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I agree with every part of your post, but any idea why more aren't sticking around to help out? When my father and his family left their homeland it was after the oppressors had been overthrown, not before/during.

The problem with sticking around is there are to much factions fighting in this war.
It started with the people vs assad troups fighting for there rights, then iran, hezbollah back up the government and started fighting the people, then it seems a shitload of fanatic groups came in with a seperate agenda and started fighting with the people, telling people they will help them, isis came in they wanted the whole country for the so called Khalifa, so with who do you stand and fight if everybody has a own agenda and are fighting eachother and the government.

Sorry for this shitty post but i'm on phone

 

[delightone]

We can assume for discussion that a over whelming amount of the people are non terrorist and have no intentions of committing crime. There are several issues with this. Over loading the system is one, where do you house them, feed them, give them medical care? It all costs major major money and right now we are in a economic recession globally. Money has to come from somewhere. This brings up another point where do this many people find jobs and if they can't what will they do for money?

We in europe have a problem with a ageing population and need to get workers in like we did in the 60s and 70s italy is already looking for 30.000 new workers, european families arent making enough children to keep economy going

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

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The problem with sticking around is there are to much factions fighting in this war.
It started with the people vs assad troups fighting for there rights, then iran, hezbollah back up the government and started fighting the people, then it seems a shitload of fanatic groups came in with a seperate agenda and started fighting with the people, telling people they will help them, isis came in they wanted the whole country for the so called Khalifa, so with who do you stand and fight if everybody has a own agenda and are fighting eachother and the government.

Sorry for this shitty post but i'm on phone

It's definitely complicated, but the only thing unique to this situation is people leaving their homes in droves.

 

[Hired Gun]

I would have had a very very hard time not popping a round off in those those cunts who were smiling