Kron Gracie thinks Earth is flat

Welcome to our Community
Wanting to join the rest of our members? Feel free to Sign Up today.
Sign up
Masato Toys

Masato Toys

...
Jan 21, 2015
3,255
6,053
Rambo John J said:
really hard to tell who is serious online
never met flat earther in person
you apparently have...I wouldn't be mad at em though...just like you
Click to expand...
I met one once

Was working at some festival and dude was walking around with a Flat Earth shirt (forget what it said exactly). I had to talk to him and dude was stubborn as fuck. Like talking with Jehovah's Witnesses or something, just a cemented mind not gonna budge. Dude did not look well lol
 
Rambo John J

Rambo John J

Baker Team
First 100
Jan 17, 2015
76,997
76,167
Masato Toys said:
exactly

If you can lump Flat Earth in the same soup as Moon hoax, then you can just as easily lump in 9/11 stuff in the same soup, and so it goes. Soon ANY conspiracy theory gets lumped in/associated with Flat Earth and Eddie fucking Bravo and it discredits the whole field.

You start talking about real shit like NSA and people flip out and call you a conspiracy theorist on the same level as a FEer.

Its so easy to taint the whole scene, which is a shame because there is so much valuable stuff to discover if you have good enough critical thinking filters
Click to expand...
IMO lumping that many things into one group because you are angry at one or a few is just as bad as believing every alternative narrative you come across.
 
Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $

Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $

TMMAC Addict
Nov 21, 2015
9,244
12,509
Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $

Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $

TMMAC Addict
Nov 21, 2015
9,244
12,509
Masato Toys said:
exactly

If you can lump Flat Earth in the same soup as Moon hoax, then you can just as easily lump in 9/11 stuff in the same soup, and so it goes. Soon ANY conspiracy theory gets lumped in/associated with Flat Earth and Eddie fucking Bravo and it discredits the whole field.

You start talking about real shit like NSA and people flip out and call you a conspiracy theorist on the same level as a FEer.

Its so easy to taint the whole scene, which is a shame because there is so much valuable stuff to discover if you have good enough critical thinking filters
Click to expand...
The NSA has been caught lying on many accounts. False Flag operations are literally
a well documented part of government history. The Gulf of Tonkin false flag opp
for example.

So I don't lump them in with FErs nor Moon Hoaxers...

911 was sketchy as fuck to me. What I don't do is take that and extrapolate it
into taking on decades and decades of scientific research, proven theories and
entire bodies of verified work and putting forth that my youtube vid discredits all
the work and inventions of the best minds of the past century
 
Masato Toys

Masato Toys

...
Jan 21, 2015
3,255
6,053
Don't some of you folks realize that we NEED conspiracy theorists to some degree as a function of society?

Correct or not, without them we would all just collectively believe whatever we are told, & we would descend into cattle even faster than we already are.
 
Masato Toys

Masato Toys

...
Jan 21, 2015
3,255
6,053
Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $ said:
The NSA has been caught lying on many accounts. False Flag operations are literally
a well documented part of government history. The Gulf of Tonkin false flag opp
for example.

So I don't lump them in with FErs nor Moon Hoaxers...

911 was sketchy as fuck to me. What I don't do is take that and extrapolate it
into taking on decades and decades of scientific research, proven theories and
entire bodies of verified work and putting forth that my youtube vid discredits all
the work and inventions of the best minds of the past century
Click to expand...
exactly. Not even the same ballpark

The reverse is also true; there is also a prodigious amount of quality research built on entire bodies of work from some of the best minds examining conspiratorial realities over the past century. To dismiss them all because someone sees some crap youtuber spewing nonsense is just as ignorant the other way.
 
Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $

Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $

TMMAC Addict
Nov 21, 2015
9,244
12,509
Rambo John J said:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AbViaDGGM8
Click to expand...
This is what I mean

"In this video we take a trip on board an high altitude balloon with amazing views
and beautiful vocals! What did we see? A Motionless flat plane? or a spinning space ball?"

"A spinning space ball". Does he actually think he is going to see the Earth Spinning?

So much scientific illiteracy in that it makes me not even want to engage

Does the creator not understand how large the earth is?

A perfectly round cueball has a flat surface when viewed from a perspective
not wide enough to capture it.

There is a specific distance above the atmosphere and a specific field
of view you must reach before you see curvature.

I can't engage with stuff like this. Its just a failure of basic education
 
Rambo John J

Rambo John J

Baker Team
First 100
Jan 17, 2015
76,997
76,167
Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $ said:
This is what I mean

"In this video we take a trip on board an high altitude balloon with amazing views
and beautiful vocals! What did we see? A Motionless flat plane? or a spinning space ball?"

"A spinning space ball". Does he actually think he is going to see the Earth Spinning?

So much scientific illiteracy in that it makes me not even want to engage

Does the creator not understand how large the earth is?

A perfectly round cueball has a flat surface when viewed from a perspective
not wide enough to capture it.

There is a specific distance above the atmosphere and a specific field
of view you must reach before you see curvature.

I can't engage with stuff like this. Its just a failure of basic education
Click to expand...
I was just posting it to throw it in with your videos/examples
well made video for sure and the view is amazing...fun song also
 
Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $

Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $

TMMAC Addict
Nov 21, 2015
9,244
12,509
Rambo John J said:
I was just posting it to throw it in with your videos/examples
well made video for sure and the view is amazing...fun song also
Click to expand...
Yeah I understood. I dig the scenery too.

What he has to do to make this a valid scientific process
is first describe and detail the distance and field of view above
the earth that "Ball Earther's" say you must obtain to see the curvature

Then he must show and calculate his distance reached and field of view obtained

It must match or exceed what we know to be the correct distance and field of view

Once that distance and field of view is reached and there is no curvature shown then
he can challenge the round earth model with a shred of any evidence.

Thats just a silly video with music and cool scenery with no evidence in his favor
whatsoever
 
Rambo John J

Rambo John J

Baker Team
First 100
Jan 17, 2015
76,997
76,167
Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $ said:
Yeah I understood. I dig the scenery too.

What he has to do to make this a valid scientific process
is first describe and detail the distance and field of view above
the earth that "Ball Earther's" say you must obtain to see the curvature

Then he must show and calculate his distance reached and field of view obtained

It must match or exceed what we know to be the correct distance and field of view

Once that distance and field of view is reached and there is no curvature shown then
he can challenge the round earth model with a shred of any evidence.

Thats just a silly video with music and cool scenery with no evidence in his favor
whatsoever
Click to expand...
yep never showed/stated/measured how high that balloon was...I loved the scenery
 
Masato Toys

Masato Toys

...
Jan 21, 2015
3,255
6,053
The FE nail in the coffin for me was simple perspective of sunrises and sunsets

I played the game and tried to see if I could prove to myself one way or another without relying on faith in any given information from outside sources.

As a trained illustrator I have a pretty solid understanding of perspective, the FE model of the sun in any shape does not match observable path of the sun in the sky. If anyone's interested I can share my conclusions

The other fact I could not explain or match with FE was the fact that whenever I visit Brazil (S Hemisphere), I am unfamiliar with any of the stars. I've seen a wacky FE explanation for this that was pretty fun to look (was about how things might reflect off a 'dome' surface) at but that's about it.
 
Rambo John J

Rambo John J

Baker Team
First 100
Jan 17, 2015
76,997
76,167
Masato Toys said:
no he keeps giving me an optimistic rep but all his posts would suggest he disagrees

perhaps optimistic as in; 'keep dreaming, buddy'?
Click to expand...
optimistic or drunk = triggered or disagrees strongly
that is how I decode his ratings...I could be way off though
Optimistic has been hijacked...I demand a recount
 
Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $

Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $

TMMAC Addict
Nov 21, 2015
9,244
12,509
Masato Toys said:
The FE nail in the coffin for me was simple perspective of sunrises and sunsets

I played the game and tried to see if I could prove to myself one way or another without relying on faith in any given information from outside sources.

As a trained illustrator I have a pretty solid understanding of perspective, the FE model of the sun in any shape does not match observable path of the sun in the sky. If anyone's interested I can share my conclusions

The other fact I could not explain or match with FE was the fact that whenever I visit Brazil (S Hemisphere), I am unfamiliar with any of the stars. I've seen a wacky FE explanation for this that was pretty fun to look (was about how things reflect off a 'dome' surface) at but that's about it.
Click to expand...
Theres actually a simple experiment the greeks did and you can do as well to
show the earth is a sphere


View: https://youtu.be/3EspZtA7C3o?t=77


How the ancient Greeks proved Earth was round over 2,000 years ago
 
Rambo John J

Rambo John J

Baker Team
First 100
Jan 17, 2015
76,997
76,167
Masato Toys said:
The FE nail in the coffin for me was simple perspective of sunrises and sunsets

I played the game and tried to see if I could prove to myself one way or another without relying on faith in any given information from outside sources.

As a trained illustrator I have a pretty solid understanding of perspective, the FE model of the sun in any shape does not match observable path of the sun in the sky. If anyone's interested I can share my conclusions

The other fact I could not explain or match with FE was the fact that whenever I visit Brazil (S Hemisphere), I am unfamiliar with any of the stars. I've seen a wacky FE explanation for this that was pretty fun to look (was about how things might reflect off a 'dome' surface) at but that's about it.
Click to expand...
U have great Art
 
Masato Toys

Masato Toys

...
Jan 21, 2015
3,255
6,053
Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $ said:
Theres actually a simple experiment the greeks did and you can do as well to
show the earth is a sphere


View: https://youtu.be/3EspZtA7C3o?t=77


How the ancient Greeks proved Earth was round over 2,000 years ago
Click to expand...
I've seen that ts great (Love Sagan), but to play devil's advocate it assumes that the sun is super huge/far away, and all its rays hit the earth parallel.

I've seen it modeled that if the sun were not huge and super far away, but much smaller and more local, the exact same shadow effect would occur
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Bottom