Kron Gracie thinks Earth is flat

[Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $]

I've seen that ts great (Love Sagan), but to play devil's advocate it assumes that the sun is super huge/far away, and all its rays hit the earth parallel.

I've seen it modeled that if the sun were not huge and super far away, but much smaller and more local, the exact same shadow effect would occur

Has that model been tested over and over and technology been developed off it?
Is it being used in all manner of equipment and proven to work or is it just a sketch
from a guy with no basic understanding in math and science?

See the difference?

 

[Masato Toys]

^^ right on

 

[soundoff71]

IMO lumping that many things into one group because you are angry at one or a few is just as bad as believing every alternative narrative you come across.

Angry. That's cute. There is a spectrum that includes being annoyed or irate. There a WTF/head shaking/point your at someone & laugh point of view. I fall somewhere along that spectrum.

Maybe you subscribe to a conspirtardial world view and you're being defensive. Something worthing exploring.

Yes, there are conspiracies that were shown to be true, like Operation Northwoods & the Gulf of Tonkin. Yes there are questionable events like the JFK assassination and 9/11 that very well could be conspiracies. But shit like the flat earth, fake moon landing, lizard people, literal vampire potbelly goblins, or whatever other ridiculous sci-fi people dream up & pass off as real deserves to be mocked mercilessly. If you can't discern the difference, then you need to find someone that has more patience than me to go down that rabbit hole.

 

[Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $]

Angry. That's cute. There is a spectrum that includes being annoyed or irate. There a WTF/head shaking/point your at someone & laugh point of view. I fall somewhere along that spectrum.

Maybe you subscribe to a conspirtardial world view and you're being defensive. Something worthing exploring.

Yes, there are conspiracies that were shown to be true, like Operation Northwoods & the Gulf of Tonkin. Yes there are questionable events like the JFK assassination and 9/11 that very well could be conspiracies. But shit like the flat earth, fake moon landing, lizard people, literal vampire potbelly goblins, or whatever other ridiculous sci-fi people dream up & pass off as real deserves to be mocked mercilessly. If you can't discern the difference, then you need to find someone that has more patience than I do to go down that rabbit hole with you.

I was with ya until you threw shade at Vampire potbelly goblins...

Don't come at our Vampire Potbelly Goblin Society bro

You don't want that kinda smoke!

 

[member 3289]

But shit like the flat earth, fake moon landing, lizard people, literal vampire potbelly goblins, or whatever other ridiculous sci-fi people dream up & pass off as real deserves to be mocked mercilessly.

You forgot to mention anti-vaxxer fuckboys

 

[Rambo John J]

Angry. That's cute. There is a spectrum that includes being annoyed or irate. There a WTF/head shaking/point your at someone & laugh point of view. I fall somewhere along that spectrum.

Maybe you subscribe to a conspirtardial world view and you're being defensive. Something worthing exploring.

Yes, there are conspiracies that were shown to be true, like Operation Northwoods & the Gulf of Tonkin. Yes there are questionable events like the JFK assassination and 9/11 that very well could be conspiracies. But shit like the flat earth, fake moon landing, lizard people, literal vampire potbelly goblins, or whatever other ridiculous sci-fi people dream up & pass off as real deserves to be mocked mercilessly. If you can't discern the difference, then you need to find someone that has more patience than I do to go down that rabbit hole with you.

I do not know your level of emotion regarding "conspiratards" and I do not claim to know.

Your previous post did not allow for "Operation Northwoods, & the Gulf of Tonkin, JFK assassination, and 9/11" to be considered...so those are deemed not Conspiratard views? Who decides what falls into that category and what is acceptable to discuss and/or question without "deserving to be mocked mercilessly".

I do not want to go down the rabbit hole with you, I did not quote you...you quoted me...apparently my post was taken personally by you and you chose to get personal back...I was referring in general to tossing the baby out with the bathwater...Tonkin and Northwoods are considered "Conspiratard" by some and credible and worth consideration by others.

I personally do not get anything from Mocking others Mercilessly, that is not how I live life...If you choose to do so then by all means enjoy it.

 

[Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $]

I've seen that ts great (Love Sagan), but to play devil's advocate it assumes that the sun is super huge/far away, and all its rays hit the earth parallel.

I've seen it modeled that if the sun were not huge and super far away, but much smaller and more local, the exact same shadow effect would occur

Elon Musk Vs. Flat Earth Society always gives me a chuckle

The Flat Earth Society Just Responded to Elon Musk's Tweet And We're Confused

Again the difference is one of them is literally a genius and the "Tony Stark"
of our world and managed to be the first person to launch a rocket into space
and then bring it back down onto a ship floating in the ocean and the other party...

Well has no inventions of note whatsoever


Call me crazy but I'm going with the guy who accomplished this


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJlFzUQVmY

 

[Buff Bagginz]

Guys, we literally went to the moon on a couple of K of computer memory, no monitor and like half a keyboard!

We basically went to the moon on a fucking calculator! lmfao

 

[Rambo John J]

Elon Musk Vs. Flat Earth Society always gives me a chuckle

The Flat Earth Society Just Responded to Elon Musk's Tweet And We're Confused

Again the difference is one of them is literally a genius and the "Tony Stark"
of our world and managed to be the first person to launch a rocket into space
and then bring it back down onto a ship floating in the ocean and the other party...

Well has no inventions of note whatsoever


Call me crazy but I'm going with the guy who accomplished this


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJlFzUQVmY

that rocket looks like a phallus

 

[Buff Bagginz]

The Big Bang is also a bunch of BS.

The professor told me so, so it must be true.

 

[Rambo John J]

Guys, we literally went to the moon on a couple of K of computer memory, no monitor and like half a keyboard!

We basically went to the moon on a fucking calculator! lmfao

 

[Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $]

that rocket looks like a phallus

It sure is a biggun' too

 

[Buff Bagginz]

The cognitive dissonance is strong in this thread.

I am currently typing off a computer that has GIGS of memory... this fucker can take me to the moon and back in seconds.

 

[Masato Toys]

its not even about specific conspiracy theories, this one or that one. Its a simple acceptance that powerful people can do nefarious things behind closed doors, are willing to lie about it publicly, & are able to cover their tracks effectively.

Is that really so hard to believe?

So once you become unwilling to take the elite class's word on face value, what choice does one have but to begin speculating what might be the real truth behind their words and actions?

How far you take it from there is up to the individual, but the basic premise I think is extremely important

 

[Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $]

The Big Bang is also a bunch of BS.

The professor told me so, so it must be true.

Actually Father George Lemaitre a priest and the Catholic Church
is the father of the Big Bang Theory.
Profile: Georges Lemaître, Father of the Big Bang | AMNH

George was a priest of the Catholic Church and also an incredible scientific mind


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=853zY24cf5Q

 

[soundoff71]

I do not know your level of emotion regarding "conspiratards" and I do not claim to know.

Your previous post did not allow for "Operation Northwoods, & the Gulf of Tonkin, JFK assassination, and 9/11" to be considered...so those are deemed not Conspiratard views? Who decides what falls into that category and what is acceptable to discuss and/or question without "deserving to be mocked mercilessly".

I do not want to go down the rabbit hole with you, I did not quote you...you quoted me...apparently my post was taken personally by you and you chose to get personal back...I was referring in general to tossing the baby out with the bathwater...Tonkin and Northwoods are considered "Conspiratard" by some and credible and worth consideration by others.

I personally do not get anything from Mocking others Mercilessly, that is not how I live life...If you choose to do so then by all means enjoy it.

You flat out said I was angry. I gave a more detailed nuance about how I feel. It seems to have bothered you.

I shouldn't have to explain nuance & discernment to a grown man. It is up to each individual to decide what is conspirtardial what is a legit conspiracy. But to equate the something like Operation Northwoods with 9/11 and lizard folks...well, that's something to think about. Either way, you shouldn't need anyone's permission to examine each thing on its own merit.

You reap what you sow. Wanna assume I'm angry? Expect an explanation. I don't know who these others are that you speak of, but someone who views any conspiracy under the same lens is not worth my time or consideration.

There you go again with the assumptions. You have no idea how I live my life, how I treat others, or anything else about me. I choose to mock conspiratards mercilessly because it amuses me. The only purpose they serve in my life is to make me shake my head and laugh. I don't need anyone's permission to do so, and I certainly don't need to justify it to anyone.

 

[soundoff71]

Michio Kaku is a bad ass man and one hell of a cool dude.

His lectures are a "show" of education and entertainment and he always takes time
to stick around after the lecture to clear up anything you couldn't understand

Genuinely passionate and scientific educator

For what it's worth I agree with all of that. Maybe I'm wrong, but he is a bit of celebrity educator, similar to Neil DeGrasse Tyson. I don't think shit stirring is beyond either of them.

 

[Masato Toys]

The cognitive dissonance is strong in this thread.

I am currently typing off a computer that has GIGS of memory... this fucker can take me to the moon and back in seconds.

I often think why the private tourism industry never tried to take passengers to the moon. Indeed, they did it how many times on pre-ATARI tech? Imagine today it really should be simple. What other tech from the 60's isn't stupidly easy and/or unfathomably advanced in 2019 (besides the internal combustion engine, lol)? It really should be a totally graspable feat, the only issue would be funds. But I'd be willing to bet you could sell space-bus and golf/jumping on the moon/super-selfie tickets pretty fast for a high price.

I also wonder why Hollywood never made any glossy patriotic movies about this event. Its the absolute pinnacle of American achievement without question, but not one single nostalgic Titanic-esque film about this momentous occasion was even attempted. You'd think it was a script just waiting to happen

 

[Rambo John J]

You flat out said I was angry. I gave a more detailed nuance about how I feel. It seems to have bothered you.

I shouldn't have to explain nuance & discernment to a grown man. It is up to each individual to decide what is conspirtardial what is a legit conspiracy. But to equate the something like Operation Northwoods with 9/11 and lizard folks...well, that's something to think about. Either way, you shouldn't need anyone's permission to examine each thing on its own merit.

You reap what you sow. Wanna assume I'm angry? Expect an explanation. I don't know who these others are that you speak of, but someone who views any conspiracy under the same lens is not worth my time or consideration.

There you go again with the assumptions. You have no idea how I live my life, how I treat others, or anything else about me. I choose to mock conspiratards mercilessly because it amuses me. The only purpose they serve in my life is to make me shake my head and laugh. I don't need anyone's permission to do so, and I certainly don't need to justify it to anyone.

@soundoff71
I flat out said
"IMO lumping that many things into one group because you are angry at one or a few is just as bad as believing every alternative narrative you come across."
not sure how you took that as directly addressing you

It was a general statement I have made before and will make again...not directed at an individual as much as a mindset...It is up to the individual to determine if they have this mindset...You apparently do not have this mindset(as you are open to considering tonkin northwoods JFK etc...)

Not bothered...it is a general concept that has been discussed many times before.

I didn't equate anything to anything...I have topics I deem somewhat credible and some I do not, as I suspect each of us do.

I was speaking in general about those who discard all alternative narratives...not specific to you.


carry on

 

[Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $]

For what it's worth I agree with all of that. Maybe I'm wrong, but he is a bit of celebrity educator, similar to Neil DeGrasse Tyson. I don't think shit stirring is beyond either of them.

He is much like Neil

Neither are among our greatest minds. Neither are publishing
works and theories at the cutting edge of science.

However I submit to you that each type of scientist
plays an equally important role

We need the Stephen Hawkings and Alan Gouths of the world in the lab
solving our greatest problems and we also need the Kakus and Tysons
of the world relating that in a digestible format to the public

 

[Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $]

Guys, we literally went to the moon on a couple of K of computer memory, no monitor and like half a keyboard!

We basically went to the moon on a fucking calculator! lmfao

Are you actually going to put forth any logical tested arguments
or are you just going to make jokes and hurl insults and further
demonstrate your lack of command of science?

 

[Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $]

I often think why the private tourism industry never tried to take passengers to the moon. Indeed, they did it how many times on pre-ATARI tech? Imagine today it really should be simple. What other tech from the 60's isn't stupidly easy and/or unfathomably advanced in 2019 (besides the internal combustion engine, lol)? It really should be a totally graspable feat, the only issue would be funds. But I'd be willing to bet you could sell space-bus and golf/jumping on the moon/super-selfie tickets pretty fast for a high price.

I also wonder why Hollywood never made any glossy patriotic movies about this event. Its the absolute pinnacle of American achievement without question, but not one single nostalgic Titanic-esque film about this momentous occasion was even attempted. You'd think it was a script just waiting to happen

Have no fear... Commercial flights to da moon

The big homies Elon and Richard Branson are already on the case

 

[Buff Bagginz]

I often think why the private tourism industry never tried to take passengers to the moon. Indeed, they did it how many times on pre-ATARI tech? Imagine today it really should be simple. What other tech from the 60's isn't stupidly easy and/or unfathomably advanced in 2019 (besides the internal combustion engine, lol)? It really should be a totally graspable feat, the only issue would be funds. But I'd be willing to bet you could sell space-bus and golf/jumping on the moon/super-selfie tickets pretty fast for a high price.

I also wonder why Hollywood never made any glossy patriotic movies about this event. Its the absolute pinnacle of American achievement without question, but not one single nostalgic Titanic-esque film about this momentous occasion was even attempted. You'd think it was a script just waiting to happen

Exactly.

 

[Rambo John J]

I often think why the private tourism industry never tried to take passengers to the moon. Indeed, they did it how many times on pre-ATARI tech? Imagine today it really should be simple. What other tech from the 60's isn't stupidly easy and/or unfathomably advanced in 2019 (besides the internal combustion engine, lol)? It really should be a totally graspable feat, the only issue would be funds. But I'd be willing to bet you could sell space-bus and golf/jumping on the moon/super-selfie tickets pretty fast for a high price.

I also wonder why Hollywood never made any glossy patriotic movies about this event. Its the absolute pinnacle of American achievement without question, but not one single nostalgic Titanic-esque film about this momentous occasion was even attempted. You'd think it was a script just waiting to happen

Just stirring the pot
gotta go to work now

 

[Dat Pre-HollyHolm Ronda $]

Just stirring the pot
gotta go to work now

What perplexes me is what does any of this have to do with the validity
of the moon landing?

Hollywood making a movie about it somehow gives it validity now?

FErs and Moon hoaxers are all over the place. Complete disregard for facts and
and science but puts beliefs in things like whether a movie was made about it to
assert validity.

First they say the Moon landing was faked in a Hollywood studio and now they say its fake cuz
Hollywood didnt make a movie about it

Which is it?

And commercial flights to the moon have been discussed by several billionaires

Fuck can we get some cogent logical conversation here?


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Co8Z8BQgWc