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Disciplined Galt

Disciplina et Frugalis
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Jan 15, 2015
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Initially, yes, the story was nothing, but then Trump made it a newsworthy story. You don"t think another clear example of the President being mentally ill is newsworthy?

Seemingly trivial shit like this actually reveals more than supposed bigger lies. Because all politicians lie. But they don't display pathology like this. A normal person would know it's a harmless incident and just laugh off the gaffe. To lie so insistently when everyone knows your lying about something so trivial speaks to real mental problems.

This is why most of us think you hardcore Trump supporters are basically cultists. The guy is just so clearly fucked in the head but trying to get it across is like trying to tell a Heaven's Gate member that killing yourself won't get you on a magical spaceship.
It's you, @McGusto, @Sexchicken and KWingJitsu @KWingJitsu who suffer from TDS. Not really a lot of people, you're in a mental echo chamber of faggotry where you reaffirm each others gay beliefs.
 

Sex Chicken

Exotic Dancer
Sep 8, 2015
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It's you, @McGusto, @Sexchicken and KWingJitsu @KWingJitsu who suffer from TDS. Not really a lot of people, you're in a mental echo chamber of big meaniery where you reaffirm each others gay beliefs.
The real TDS is with people who are so afraid of losing their nationalist alt-right agenda that the pretend this guy isn’t a total clown. Politics aside he is a hilarious buffoon. He is incredibly vain and incredibly dumb it’s the perfect recipe for comedy.
 
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BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
Jul 22, 2015
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Initially, yes, the story was nothing, but then Trump made it a newsworthy story. You don"t think another clear example of the President being mentally ill is newsworthy?

Seemingly trivial shit like this actually reveals more than supposed bigger lies. Because all politicians lie. But they don't display pathology like this. A normal person would know it's a harmless incident and just laugh off the gaffe. To lie so insistently when everyone knows your lying about something so trivial speaks to real mental problems.

This is why most of us think you hardcore Trump supporters are basically cultists. The guy is just so clearly fucked in the head but trying to get it across is like trying to tell a Heaven's Gate member that killing yourself won't get you on a magical spaceship.
Here's the thing. Most politicians aren't scrutinized the same way that Trump is. Justin Trudeau called himself "President" the other day. Guess what, no one is badgering him over it because people recognize shit happens sometimes.

Your position on this is telling seeing as you just described someone who's repeatedly called Trump an idiot a hardcore Trump supporter.
 

Sheepdog

Protecting America from excessive stool loitering
Dec 1, 2015
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Here's the thing. Most politicians aren't scrutinized the same way that Trump is. Justin Trudeau called himself "President" the other day. Guess what, no one is badgering him over it because people recognize shit happens sometimes.

Your position on this is telling seeing as you just described someone who's repeatedly called Trump an idiot a hardcore Trump supporter.
Like a chimpanzee trying to comprehend the hairless monkeys staring at it behind the invisible barrier, you will never understand why we find you so intriguing. And we will remain fascinated by your primitive brain, but also terrified at how much you remind us of ourselves.
 

KWingJitsu

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Nov 15, 2015
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The real TDS is with people who are so afraid of losing their nationalist alt-right agenda that the pretend this guy isn’t a total clown. Politics aside he is a hilarious buffoon. He is incredibly vain and incredibly dumb it’s the perfect recipe for comedy.
 

Freeloading Rusty

Here comes Rover, sniffin’ at your ass
Jan 11, 2016
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Brexit and Trumpism Have Failed Because Conservative Populism is a Lie
“They will soon be calling me MR. BREXIT!,” announced Donald Trump in the summer of 2016. Before long, Trump was calling himself that, after appearing at a rally with Nigel Farage, one of its champions.

The association with Brexit burnished Trump’s self-styled (and utterly fabricated) reputation as a soothsayer. More importantly, the connection seemed to confirm that Trump represented something larger: a wave of conservative populism sweeping the Western world.

And yet the collapse of Brexit, yet again, reveals another, less flattering commonality. Conservative populism has utterly failed to translate the political impulses behind them into a plausible governing agenda. It is a visceral reaction against multiculturalism and modernity that has not only failed to produce concrete solutions for its supporters, but doesn’t even know what to ask for.

The political phenomenon of conservative populism has created a demand for philosophical treatises to justify it. The conservative intelligentsia has been engaged in a comic process of backfilling in high-minded arguments to support the rise of Trump. The pro-Trump media is dominated by lowbrow right-wing infotainment, like Fox News and Breitbart — media that are simple and accessible enough for Trump himself to enjoy.

But the vast apparatus of conservative intellectuals also needs essays and lectures pitched at a higher level, in order to sustain its own sense of elitism. There’s no need to raise millions of dollars for think tanks and endowed chairs if the party’s thought process begins and ends with Sean Hannity’s sock-puppet routine. The Journal of American Greatness was founded in 2016 for this specific purpose — defining a populist conservatism that would resemble whatever it is Trump is trying to do.

The right has put its finest minds to the task of turning its irritable mental gestures into something resembling ideas. Peter Berkowitz, a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, delivered a lecture at the Manhattan Institute that was adapted for publication in the City Journal. Its theme, implicitly rebuking conservatives who might feel some discomfort with Trump’s vulgarity and open bigotry, was that conservatives have always made common cause with populists. Trump has declared, “I have a gut and my gut tells me more sometimes than anybody else’s brain can ever tell me.” Berkowitz restates Trump’s ethos more elegantly. “Conservatives have tended to recognize the unruliness of the passions and the limits of reason. They believe that recondite reflection and abstract theory tend to obscure practical matters; as a guide to politics, conservatives strongly prefer experience and practical wisdom,” he argues. “Burke allied with the people against ‘the political men of letters’ — the progressive public intellectuals of his day.”

Apparently this innate distrust of elites is why conservatives should accept and even welcome a leader of the free world who has been described in the following terms by his own appointees: “Fucking moron” (Rex Tillerson), an “idiot” (John Kelly, John Dowd), a “dope” (H.R. McMaster), “dumb as shit” (Gary Cohn) with the comprehension level of “a fifth- or sixth-grader” (James Mathis), or “an 11-year-old-child” (Steve Bannon). A president with an attention span so miniscule his aides have to use large-type placards festooned with brief slogans and colorful graphics, it seems, is the worthy heir to Sir Edmund Burke himself.

Berkowitz builds his essay on the premise that the working class has become disaffected with “an imperious ruling elite.” Yet he offers nothing in the way of substance to flesh it out, gesturing only at familiar bromides (“individual freedom, limited government, free markets, robust civil society, and a strong America in the international arena”) as the eternal course.

He fails to acknowledge Trump won these voters in large part by distancing himself from the right, promising universal health care, lower prescription-drug prices, cracking down on Wall Street, ending the carried interest loophole, and other ideologically unorthodox moves. But he has abandoned all these ideas in favor of a rehash of George W. Bush’s domestic agenda. This has helped persuade Republican legislators to overlook his misconduct, but taken a toll on Trump’s popularity.

The populist promises that set Trump apart during both the primary and the general election have simply failed to materialize. Trump’s budget, which proposes cuts to Medicare and Medicaid that he had famously pledged to oppose, is the latest evidence that he has simply defaulted to traditional movement conservatism.

Conservative populism has followed the same course in the United Kingdom and the United States. Right-wing politicians attached expansive promises to retrograde cultural panic to gain power, and once given a chance to follow through, have managed to deliver only the latter. These movements justified themselves as an authentic rebellion against the experts. The experts warned the promises were impossible. It turns out they knew what they were talking about.
 

Freeloading Rusty

Here comes Rover, sniffin’ at your ass
Jan 11, 2016
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Trump 'not thrilled' with Newsom decision to halt death penalty in California
President Trump on Wednesday voiced opposition to California Gov. Gavin Newsom's (D) plans to suspend the death penalty in the state.

"Defying voters, the Governor of California will halt all death penalty executions of 737 stone cold killers," Trump tweeted. "Friends and families of the always forgotten VICTIMS are not thrilled, and neither am I!"

Defying voters, the Governor of California will halt all death penalty executions of 737 stone cold killers. Friends and families of the always forgotten VICTIMS are not thrilled, and neither am I!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 13, 2019
The president chimed in amid numerous reports that Newsom will announce the suspension of the death penalty on Wednesday.

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Newsom will cite the financial costs, the finality of the practice and its racial imbalance in describing it as "inconsistent with our bedrock values," according to a statement released late Tuesday.

The governor will use an executive order to spare the state's death row inmates from execution, but the individuals will remain incarcerated. The Washington Post reported that California's 737 death row inmates make up roughly a quarter of the nation's prisoners awaiting execution.

The Post reported that no executions are scheduled in California, and the state last carried one out in 2006.

Voters in California rejected a 2016 measure that would have abolished the death penalty in the state.

California will join Maryland, Connecticut, Illinois and Washington, among other states, in doing away with the death penalty.

Trump has in recent months feuded with Newsom over the state's high-speed rail plan and government aid for wildfire victims. Newsom took office in January.