TJ Dillashaw suspended 2 years for EPO

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KWingJitsu

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This breaks my heart. I really wanted him to be one of the clean ones. I was hoping that this violation would have been related to taking a diuretic for the weight cut, but EPO is straight-up cheating to gain an edge.

I dishespect.
His nipples always made him suspect .....
Sad.
 

Dim

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maybe they know it is rarely tested for, so they just play the game.

Dim @Dim do you know how often MMA fighters are being tested for EPO?
I do actually but with a disclaimer.

For 2017, of around 2500 urine samples put through ADAMS (wada database) 174 were analysed for EPO

But thats not just UFC, that will include some other MMA organisations that use WADA labs (IMMAAF)



But, as i said before, if a fighters biological profile shows no suggestion that they are using epo, then you would not analyse their sample for epo.
 
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Rambo John J

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I do actually but with a disclaimer.

For 2017, of around 2500 urine samples put through ADAMS (wada database) 171 were analysed for EPO

But thats not just UFC, that will include some other MMA organisations that use WADA labs (IMMAAF)



But, as i said before, if a fighters biological profile shows no suggestion that they are using epo, then you would not analyse their sample for epo.
thanks

so you may have less than a 5% chance of getting tested for EPO

that seems like something the fighters would utilize if they know that info(which I suspect they do)

Hmnnnn
 

Dim

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thanks

so you may have less than a 5% chance of getting tested for EPO

that seems like something the fighters would utilize if they know that info(which I suspect they do)

Hmnnnn
but, if you use epo your retic's are gonna go up (immature blood cells) and that is going to show up in the biological passport, so then usada are going to target you anyway.


EPO is notoriously hard to detect because if you microdose late at night its basically out of your system by the morning. So if you are smart, you dont get caught.

Any sample collected after say 8am, its a waste of time even analysing it for epo.

But.. if an athletes bio passport starts showing increased Hb volume, increased or abnormal retics, thats a sign they are using EPO.

So then you target them, either very very late at night, like 1 minute before the 11pm window when they have just injected, or like they may have done to TJ, post weigh in. (its entirely possible they did TJ late at night. he might have thought he was in the clear until fight time)
 

Rambo John J

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but, if you use epo your retic's are gonna go up (immature blood cells) and that is going to show up in the biological passport, so then usada are going to target you anyway.


EPO is notoriously hard to detect because if you microdose late at night its basically out of your system by the morning. So if you are smart, you dont get caught.

Any sample collected after say 8am, its a waste of time even analysing it for epo.

But.. if an athletes bio passport starts showing increased Hb volume, increased or abnormal retics, thats a sign they are using EPO.

So then you target them, either very very late at night, like 1 minute before the 11pm window when they have just injected, or like they may have done to TJ, post weigh in. (its entirely possible they did TJ late at night. he might have thought he was in the clear until fight time)
very informative
I didn't know any of that
Thanks for the info bro
 

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This will be a big hit to his UFC career by missing two years out of his prime. If his UFC stint goes tits-up, he could go over to ONE and finally fight DJ
 

Tiiimmmaaayyy

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This is a big shot to his career. Not just talking about the asterisks. He will be 35 when he returns. That may be ok for heavyweights, but the smaller guys not so much. If he comes back at 35, and is clean, seems like his best days are gonna be behind him.
 

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This is a big shot to his career. Not just talking about the asterisks. He will be 35 when he returns. That may be ok for heavyweights, but the smaller guys not so much. If he comes back at 35, and is clean, seems like his best days are gonna be behind him.
Him and Chad Mendes out for some of their prime is just sad...
 

Haulport

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Blah blah blah....top ranked MMA fighter is on a bunch of illegal PEDs. Shocking! And lol @ other fighters who are also on a bunch of shit calling him out. What do you expect from an organization that was built up by 3 juice heads...?
 

delightone

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I still to do not give a shit about fighters juicing, just let them go full Arnold.

On the otherhand this one pisses me off a bit, i wasted 3 hours listening to him preaching his natural blahblahblah this and that on the JRE,
 

Rambo John J

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Why doesn't everyone train there? I'd imagine everyone wants to, but Google searches don't pull it up when searching the correct spelling.
They have Chael with a "training mask" as a Pic on their Website
the guy who said he did as much EPO and everything else as much as he could get away with

very interesting...some of these labs and camps are just fronts for Ped usage IMO