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The students knew the school was fake and they were paying to get fraudulent transcripts to keep student visas without attending school. This is often done by rich from shithole® countries or those working illegally. They didn't know the government was running the school. The school where they never actually went to a class and knew that.

@conor mcgregor nut hugger can tell you more on the topic.

This has also been done for a while.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...e-to-indictment-21-for-visa-fraud-conspiracy/
 
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The students knew the school was fake and they were paying to get fraudulent transcripts to keep student visas without attending school. This is often done by rich from shithole® countries or those working illegally. They didn't know the government was running the school. The school where they never actually went to a class and knew that.

@conor mcgregor nut hugger can tell you more on the topic.

This has also been done for a while.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...e-to-indictment-21-for-visa-fraud-conspiracy/
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All of the students at this school started at a legitimate school and then transferred to this fake one. They knew exactly what they were doing. They knew there was an attendance requirement (minimum 80% attendance of classes, calculated on a quarterly basis) and they chose to sign up to this school so that they wouldn't have to worry about their school schedule getting in the way of whatever illegal work they were doing.

And they knew that as F1 (student) visa holders they weren't allowed to work (unless they were hired to work part-time at the school they were attending, which we know wasn't the case for any of these students).

I have seen thousands of students who work illegally on student visas. Not hundreds, thousands. And every single one of them has known that what they're doing is illegal. And a lot of them would transfer to a fake school if they thought they could probably get away with it.

Here's how the process works:

- Find a school in the U.S. that offers classes at a convenient time for you to work illegally during the time you're not in class (most language schools offer evening classes for this exact reason)

- Come to the U.S. on F1 visa and work illegally, with the ultimate intent of most being permanent U.S. residency (acquired through a business marriage, a legitimate marriage, a change in status to a different visa that provides a path residency, or whatever other methods are available to them)

- Attend at least 80% of your classes (at least 15 out of the 18 required hours per week at language schools) so that your school doesn't terminate your visa and you can continue renewing your driver's license, which expires on an annual basis for F1 visa holders

The fact that this was set up by ICE just means that the government is trying to bust these fully conscious rule breakers, which is a good thing because these people are knowingly breaking the law.

Further testament to the students' complicity is seen when you read that 80% of them have voluntarily left the country so that they wouldn't be deported/banned from re-entering the U.S. in the future. So they agree to go back, bide their time, and hope to get a sympathetic U.S. consulate employee reviewing their paperwork in a few years when they re-apply for a visa.

This also happens at non government-run schools. And when the government finds out, not only are the students dealt with the same way, but the owner of the school and any school employees with knowledge of the fraud are also arrested.

80 Arrested Over Miami School Posing As a Front for Illegal Student Visa Applications

Miami Language School Owner Busted for Visa Fraud

This is why you don't get your news from asshats on Twitter.
 
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conor mcgregor nut hugger said:
All of the students at this school started at a legitimate school and then transferred to this fake one. They knew exactly what they were doing. They knew there was an attendance requirement (minimum 80% attendance of classes, calculated on a quarterly basis) and they chose to sign up to this school so that they wouldn't have to worry about their school schedule getting in the way of whatever illegal work they were doing.

And they knew that as F1 (student) visa holders they weren't allowed to work (unless they were hired to work part-time at the school they were attending, which we know wasn't the case for any of these students).

I have seen thousands of students who work illegally on student visas. Not hundreds, thousands. And every single one of them has known that what they're doing is illegal. And a lot of them would transfer to a fake school if they thought they could probably get away with it.

Here's how the process works:

- Find a school in the U.S. that offers classes at a convenient time for you to work illegally during the time you're not in class (most language schools offer evening classes for this exact reason)

- Come to the U.S. on F1 visa and work illegally, with the ultimate intent of most being permanent U.S. residency (acquired through a business marriage, a legitimate marriage, a change in status to a different visa that provides a path residency, or whatever other methods are available to them)

- Attend at least 80% of your classes (at least 15 out of the 18 required hours per week at language schools) so that your school doesn't terminate your visa and you can continue renewing your driver's license, which expires on an annual basis for F1 visa holders

The fact that this was set up by ICE just means that the government is trying to bust these fully conscious rule breakers, which is a good thing because these people are knowingly breaking the law.

Further testament to the students' complicity is seen when you read that 80% of them have voluntarily left the country so that they wouldn't be deported/banned from re-entering the U.S. in the future. So they agree to go back, bide their time, and hope to get a sympathetic U.S. consulate employee reviewing their paperwork in a few years when they re-apply for a visa.

This also happens at non government-run schools. And when the government finds out, not only are the students dealt with the same way, but the owner of the school and any school employees with knowledge of the fraud are also arrested.

80 Arrested Over Miami School Posing As a Front for Illegal Student Visa Applications

Miami Language School Owner Busted for Visa Fraud

This is why you don't get your news from asshats on Twitter.
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I honestly didn't know about this. Thanks for the info.
 
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conor mcgregor nut hugger said:
All of the students at this school started at a legitimate school and then transferred to this fake one. They knew exactly what they were doing. They knew there was an attendance requirement (minimum 80% attendance of classes, calculated on a quarterly basis) and they chose to sign up to this school so that they wouldn't have to worry about their school schedule getting in the way of whatever illegal work they were doing.

And they knew that as F1 (student) visa holders they weren't allowed to work (unless they were hired to work part-time at the school they were attending, which we know wasn't the case for any of these students).

I have seen thousands of students who work illegally on student visas. Not hundreds, thousands. And every single one of them has known that what they're doing is illegal. And a lot of them would transfer to a fake school if they thought they could probably get away with it.

Here's how the process works:

- Find a school in the U.S. that offers classes at a convenient time for you to work illegally during the time you're not in class (most language schools offer evening classes for this exact reason)

- Come to the U.S. on F1 visa and work illegally, with the ultimate intent of most being permanent U.S. residency (acquired through a business marriage, a legitimate marriage, a change in status to a different visa that provides a path residency, or whatever other methods are available to them)

- Attend at least 80% of your classes (at least 15 out of the 18 required hours per week at language schools) so that your school doesn't terminate your visa and you can continue renewing your driver's license, which expires on an annual basis for F1 visa holders

The fact that this was set up by ICE just means that the government is trying to bust these fully conscious rule breakers, which is a good thing because these people are knowingly breaking the law.

Further testament to the students' complicity is seen when you read that 80% of them have voluntarily left the country so that they wouldn't be deported/banned from re-entering the U.S. in the future. So they agree to go back, bide their time, and hope to get a sympathetic U.S. consulate employee reviewing their paperwork in a few years when they re-apply for a visa.

This also happens at non government-run schools. And when the government finds out, not only are the students dealt with the same way, but the owner of the school and any school employees with knowledge of the fraud are also arrested.

80 Arrested Over Miami School Posing As a Front for Illegal Student Visa Applications

Miami Language School Owner Busted for Visa Fraud

This is why you don't get your news from asshats on Twitter.
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I've never understood why one isn't allowed to work while applying for change of status . It's the most corrupt arse-backwards system which leads to the existence of schools like this.

You only are given a provisional work permit after getting deep into the application process, but not before you've already spent thousands of dollars in legal and application fees that you're not allowed to earn while you apply.

"Hey, legal immigrant wannabe, wanna do things the right way and become a permanent resident/U.S. citizen? Cool. Pay our corrupt immigration lawyers a shit tonne of money and apply for our expensive, drawn out, chaotic paperwork-heavy process, while not being able to work, and we'll get back to you at some point in the far future. Hope you have enough money saved up to feed and house yourself in the meantime, 'cos this could take a while. And nope you can't work till we approve your application. See you in 6 months! Or more if you make a paperwork error and have to start over or provide some silly document we forgot to tell you about. And have to pay some shitty lawyer to help you appeal our rejection letter. Welcome to 'Murica."

So yeah, not surprisingly, supply, meet demand.
 
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Your lying Thot-In-Chief lying again about the 'war on Thanksgiving.

 
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KWingJitsu said:
I've never understood why one isn't allowed to work while applying for change of status . It's the most corrupt arse-backwards system which leads to the existence of schools like this.

You only are given a provisional work permit after getting deep into the application process, but not before you've already spent thousands of dollars in legal and application fees that you're not allowed to earn while you apply.

"Hey, legal immigrant wannabe, wanna do things the right way and become a permanent resident/U.S. citizen? Cool. Pay our corrupt immigration lawyers a shit tonne of money and apply for our expensive, drawn out, chaotic paperwork-heavy process, while not being able to work, and we'll get back to you at some point in the far future. Hope you have enough money saved up to feed and house yourself in the meantime, 'cos this could take a while. And nope you can't work till we approve your application. See you in 6 months! Or more if you make a paperwork error and have to start over or provide some silly document we forgot to tell you about. And have to pay some shitty lawyer to help you appeal our rejection letter. Welcome to 'Murica."

So yeah, not surprisingly, supply, meet demand.
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These aren't the types of immigrants the government wants. They don't want people coming in on student visas and then applying for citizenship, they want people with professional skills, like doctors, engineers, architects etc. And I don't blame them. Generally, applications should be made from outside the US, by people with stable careers in their own country.
 
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To be clear, Trump had no choice. Majorities in both the house and senate made this veto-proof.
 
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Trump says Mexican drug cartels will ‘absolutely’ be designated terrorists
U.S. President Donald Trump says he will “absolutely” designate Mexican drug cartels as terrorist organizations.

But the Mexican government is pushing back, arguing that such a step would be an assault on its sovereignty.

Trump told former Fox News Channel host Bill O’Reilly during a radio interview this week that he’ll formally label the cartels as terrorist groups because drugs they bring into the U.S. kill tens of thousands of Americans annually. Trump offered no timetable for an announcement.
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Does anyone actually believe Donald will do this? Or is it just another distraction attempt. Seems par for the course, anytime some damning news comes out Donald make some fake announcement of something he is 'thinking' of doing.
 
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Wildly Incriminating Emails Show the White House Knew Trump Was Extorting Ukraine
Internal emails show that the White House scrambled to come up with a justification for freezing the money just days after the White House Counsel’s Office was told that an anonymous CIA official had filed a complaint with the agency’s general counsel concerning the president’s July 25 phone call, suggesting people on the inside knew they were fucked.

The Washington Post reports that a confidential White House review of Trump’s decision to put a hold on aid to Ukraine “has turned up hundreds of documents that reveal extensive efforts to generate an after-the-fact justification for the decision and a debate over whether the delay was legal.” In early August, for example, email exchanges show acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney asking acting Office of Management and Budget director Russell Vought to provide an update on the legal rationale for holding up the aid and how much longer it could be delayed. (The month prior, the president had decided to freeze the money “without an assessment of the reasoning or legal justification,” because when you’re pressuring another country to do your personal bidding, you don’t typically ask, Hey, this is cool legally-speaking, right?) Emails show Vought and OMB staffers insisting the hold was legal, while officials at the State Department and National Security Council believed otherwise. According to the justification from the OMB lawyers, withholding the aid was legal so long as they referred to it as a “temporary” hold, according to people familiar with the matter.

Mulvaney’s request for information came days after the White House Counsel’s Office was put on notice that an anonymous CIA official had made a complaint to the agency’s general counsel about Trump’s July 25 call to [Volodymyr] Zelensky during which he requested Ukraine investigate former vice president Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden, as well as an unfounded theory that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. This official would later file a whistle-blower complaint with the intelligence community’s inspector general, which ignited the impeachment push when its existence became public.


The emails revealed by White House lawyers include some in which Mulvaney urges Vought to immediately focus on Ukraine’s aid package, making clear it was a top priority for the administration.... Mulvaney is a critical player in the Ukraine saga, as he has acknowledged that he asked the OMB to block the release of congressionally approved aid to Ukraine—at the president’s request—in early or mid-July 2019.

While the White House has stonewalled Congress’s requests for information and for witnesses to testify, Mark Sandy, a career OMB official, told lawmakers that the delayed aid was highly unusual and that he’d never before seen senior political OMB officials seize control of a portfolio in such a manner.

In a statement, OMB spokeswoman Rachel K. Semmel insisted—even now, after all we know!—that “there was a legal consensus at every step of the way that the money could be withheld to conduct the policy review,” and that the emails do not at all reveal panicked staffers trying to justify Trump’s actions after the fact. “OMB works closely with agencies on executing the budget. Routine practices and procedures were followed, not scrambling,” she said. The White House press office and Counsel’s Office did not respond to the Post’s requests for comment; Robert Driscoll, Mulvaney’s lawyer, declined to comment. For his part, Mulvaney famously told reporters that of course Trump wanted a quid pro quo deal with Ukraine, and that such things happen in this administration all the time, before attempting to walk back everything he said.
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The White House has reportedly been unable to find any record of the call where Trump told Sondland there was 'no quid pro quo' with Ukraine
  • A Trump administration official has told The Washington Post that the White House has been unable to find any record of the September 9 call between President Donald Trump and EU ambassador Gordon Sondland.
  • Both men have said that during the call that Trump told Sondland he sought "no quid pro quo" deal, and wanted "nothing" in return for dealings with Ukraine.
  • The call has been pivotal to Trump's impeachment defense, with the president reading out sections of the call to reporters on the day Sondland delivered his testimony to the impeachment probe.
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