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Was Michael Jackson a pedophile?

  • No he didn't like kids but molested them

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Enough to get you in jail though. And that's best case scenario. Where there is smoke... lots of it. Add to that his own childhood.

The issue is that all the smoke from the 90s up until the vague investigation in the early 2000s seems like it was pretty well BS. I mean how are you going to go and molest all these kids all this time and they can't find anything even when they do a surprise search warrant?

Now with that I have to agree with you. Where did the thought of the con artist to target for that particular con? Perhaps just basing it on known rumors and reality anyway.
I mean if I was trying to con somebody I'm not sure I would jump right to the molested my child. it would be easier to fake an injury at Neverland or something I would think.

I'll have to go watch the new documentary since it's convinced so many people
 
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How bad was he? I mean.... The motherfucker kept trying to tell you all that he's bad.... He's bad.... Shamone
 

Yossarian

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I mean how are you going to go and molest all these kids all this time and they can't find anything even when they do a surprise search warrant?
Good question. But what does one expect to find from an unfortunate event such as sexual molestation? What tangible evidence? Doesn't that seem hard in most of these type of cases? Child porn? Why would he have to when he was surrounded by children, even unknowns seeking children put themselves close to children, boy-scouts, etc. Unfortunately, in most cases there is no tangible evidence, a reason why some of these pope guys have gotten away with it for so long. Think of the guy who banged 200 deaf children.

So we look for context. And that makes him look even worse, even how he openly would talk about his young friends.

As for his acts being illegal, touching, taking showers, even just sleeping with another parent's child should be and could be punishable by law. So then the question is, what all was he guilty of.

The rumors, the stuff that came out of Hollywood in the last couple of years tells me it is highly plausible for MJ to have gone that route. Maybe Epstein had the answer, who knows.
 

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no I'm not drunk KWingJitsu @KWingJitsu it seemed like they were implying you're a pedo or something

Edit: unacceptable - L
 
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Jehannum

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@Splinty please use your itchy pinky finger to pink this motherfucker, pls. kthx.
you going to keep crying because I made a comment days ago? we both know this ain't about what I just said bitch

Edit: respectful discussion please - -L
 
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silentsinger

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Michael Jackson's FBI Files Released

Lies run sprints, but the truth runs marathons. — Michael Jackson.

TL;DR: The FBI conducted several investigations on or involving Michael Jackson from the early 1990's until his passing in 2009, with the last 10 years of his life receiving an ongoing investigation which turned up nothing that would suggest he was guilty of the crimes he was accused of.

More than 70 police officers searched his Neverland Ranch property, his other places of residence were searched, dozens of computers were seized and examined, and there was nothing to suggest he had a sexual interest in children. The only porn ever found which belonged to Michael Jackson was adult, heterosexual, porn. Nothing illegal was ever found in his home.

A fake police report was released by gossip website Radar Online in 2016 which the Sheriff's Department stated was ‘falsified, with images that were never part of the original documents,' claiming those images 'appeared to have been taken from internet sources.' There were contents on the fake report which didn't even exist in 2005.

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Corey Feldman vouches for Michael Jackson’s innocence. ‘He is not that guy,’ Feldman maintains. ‘I know the difference between pedophiles and someone who is not a pedophile because I’ve been molested.’

Close friend Macauley Culkin also stands by Jackson. Nothing happened. I don't think you understand,’ Culkin said, ‘Michael Jackson's bedroom is two stories.’

In 1993, when allegations were first put against Michael Jackson, the father who accused him was recorded ON TAPE plotting against Jackson (listen to it here):

On July 2, 1993, in a private telephone conversation, Chandler was tape-recorded as saying,

There was no reason why he (Jackson) had to stop calling me ... I picked the nastiest son of a bitch I could find [Evan Chandler's lawyer, Barry Rothman], all he wants to do is get this out in the public as fast as he can, as big as he can and humiliate as many people as he can. He's nasty, he's mean, he's smart and he's hungry for publicity. Everything's going to a certain plan that isn't just mine. Once I make that phone call, this guy is going to destroy everybody in sight in any devious, nasty, cruel way that he can do it. I've given him full authority to do that. Jackson is an evil guy, he is worse than that and I have the evidence to prove it. If I go through with this, I win big-time. There's no way I lose. I will get everything I want and they will be destroyed forever ... Michael's career will be over.

In the same conversation, when asked how this would benefit his son, Chandler replied,

That's irrelevant to me ... It will be a massacre if I don't get what I want. It's going to be bigger than all us put together ... This man [Jackson] is going to be humiliated beyond belief ... He will not sell one more record.

This phone call took place BEFORE Evan Chandler said his son told him about Jackson. Also bear in mind, Chandler, a dentist, had his son SEDATED with Sodium Amytal, a drug which affects a person's memories and makes them susceptible to suggestion when he got the confession out.

After 2005, Jackson's defence attorney explains it best here where he outlines that the family which accused him of abusing 13 year old Gavin Arvizo had targeted other celebrities asking for money, including Jay Leno and Chris Tucker. Defence attorney Thomas Mesereau would also describe the prosecution's tactics as essentially throwing everything at Jackson hoping something would stick.

Take the time. Do the research from verifiable and reputable sources of information. I have literally spent years researching Michael Jackson’s life, art, and allegations and I can honestly say that if you peel back the layers of his accusations you will see that his innocence has always been there.

Edit: If you wish to know more about the trials of Michael Jackson I will link some reputable sources which are quite compelling and what I consider must-reads.

  • Reason Bound Podcast, episode 10: "Pirates In Neverland: The Michael Jackson Allegations." Host Ryan Michaels and guest, multiple award winning journalist Charles Thomson, break down everything that happened between 1993 and 2005 and explain the Michael Jackson allegations in great detail. A very absorbing and compelling podcast to listen to.

  • "Was Michael Jackson Framed?" by Mary A. Fischer for GQ Magazine, October 1994. This meticulously researched piece of investigative journalism examines the events and people involved in Jackson's 1993 accusation/ extortion attempt.

  • "One of the Most Shameful Episodes In Journalistic History." By multiple award winning journalist Charles Thomson. Thomson examines the court transcripts of the 2005 trial and compares them to the media coverage at the time and outlines how many of the crucial details which pointed to Jackson's defence went completely unreported. YouTube user, TabloidJunk, narrates Thomson's article and adds supporting video footage if you would prefer to watch that instead.
That TLDR didn't really fit the TLDR brief.
 

silentsinger

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I think that he probably did a little grab-ass with kids and did things that he shouldn't have but I'm not so sure that he was having sex with kids. I could see him as thinking that he was touching and playing with friends his own age or showering with them like people do in locker rooms. Definitely inappropriate but not really raping them either.
Way I see it. Hide and seek, sleep overs in the same bed, hate to say it potential touching up. But I don't think if any of that was going on that he thought he was doing anything wrong.
I don't think for a second his children were made via anything other than a test tube. Whether it be his fault or not, he simply wasn't right.
 

YourDaddyDevilAndLord

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Dude, they have phone calls to the Safechuck kid that totally sound like Michael talking to his "girlfriend", he was spitting game to a 10 year old kid.
 

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If it walks like a nonce, looks like a nonce and quacks like a nonce.

It's Jacko

He did it in plain sight.

I couldn't finish the documentary. It's pretty bad. No pun intended. And if it's fake then so were the moon landings
 

Papi Chingon

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I think that he probably did a little grab-ass with kids and did things that he shouldn't have but I'm not so sure that he was having sex with kids. I could see him as thinking that he was touching and playing with friends his own age or showering with them like people do in locker rooms. Definitely inappropriate but not really raping them either.
You rub your friends nuts when you were little? You suck your friends' dicks when you were little? You stick your fingers into your friends assholes when you were little? I can't say I agree with your opinion.

Let the guy fuck some kids for fuck sake, he's the king of pop.
- willthiswork
 

SongExotic2

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You rub your friends nuts when you were little? You suck your friends' dicks when you were little? You stick your fingers into your friends assholes when you were little? I can't say I agree with your opinion.

Let the guy fuck some kids for fuck sake, he's the king of pop.
- willthiswork
Jacko was a nonce.

People who like jacko will always find some weirdo way of saying it wasn't malicious or he never had a childhood himself.

I've discovered this to be true both online and in real life. The bottom line is he was a nonce, and a dangerous one at that.

May he rest in hell
 

Papi Chingon

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Jacko was a nonce.

People who like jacko will always find some weirdo way of saying it wasn't malicious or he never had a childhood himself.

I've discovered this to be true both online and in real life. The bottom line is he was a nonce, and a dangerous one at that.

May he rest in hell
Wacko for jacko?

 

Lukewarm Carl

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You rub your friends nuts when you were little? You suck your friends' dicks when you were little? You stick your fingers into your friends assholes when you were little? I can't say I agree with your opinion.

Let the guy fuck some kids for fuck sake, he's the king of pop.
- willthiswork
Sure. That's exactly what I said. Good job there, sport.