General Corona virus updates

[Rambo John J]

These are the top messages circulating and trending today in conservative and liberal circles.

Conservative:

1) China engaging in disinfo.
2) US found by Johns Hopkins study to be most prepared
3) Returning to work in 2 weeks necessary

Liberal:

1) Virus worsening and death toll increasing.
2) Stimulus bill inadequate due to corporate favorable language.
3) Trump wants to reopen in 2 weeks against medical advice.

Things to note about each of these stories:

The focus on China, what they're doing, what they did, and what conspiracies they're suggesting is being heavily amplified in conservative news circles even though those stories are not circulating in China itself and are mostly confined to English language press. As Wuhan resumes production there is a sense of bitterness that the origin point of the crisis is able to economically restart while the rest of the world waits.

The Johns Hopkins study, it should be noted, is based on capacity of public and private infrastructure as compared to other nations and was a computer simulation of what would happen in the event of a coronavirus outbreak. Thereafter, nations were given a score. This story is being amplified usually as a means of tamping down criticisms that the Trump administration didn't act quickly enough, although the study says nothing about actual actions taken and only speaks to theoretical preparedness. You can read more about it here: Pandemic simulation exercise spotlights massive preparedness gap

The virus is indeed worsening and mortality is increasing, but the prominence of death and infection toll numbers in certain media suggests an effort to give cover to state and local leaders implementing or enforcing shutdowns, even though they are unpopular. Some governors and mayors of large urban centers are preparing to add police power to enforcing stay at home directives on the basis of these numbers (See e.g. Chicago). This week is when cases are projected to spike substantially.

The stimulus bill circulating through Congress is being painted as inadequate for not addressing families and individuals and prioritizing corporate relief. In reality, there will need to be multiple stimulus packages over the next several months, so getting one done to keep firms solvent first to continue to pay workers before moving to extensive direct payment schemes mostly represents a philosophical difference. There is fear that without assurances corporations will trim their workforces anyway so Dems are pushing for 90% retention of workforce as a requirement for corps to receive funds. Repubs generally say business owners need discretion to do what they feel is in the best interest of their companies, even if it means layoffs, which would then transfer employees to government direct payments via unemployment and benefits spending as needed.

Regarding 2 weeks, Conservative sources have emphasized that it might be a worthwhile sacrifice while liberal sources have painted it as unrealistic and a sign of Trump allegedly being delusional. In reality, 2 weeks means little. Trump said he was open to reassessing in 15 days and didn't pledge anything. Texas Lt. Gov. Patrick has notably emerged saying he'd die for his country to produce again and Trump of course tweeted that we "can't let the cure be worse than the disease." It should be noted that states would still have the discretion to keep lockdown policies in place even if the President directed CDC to amend its recommendations. The 2 week narrative is leading to hysteria across liberal social media even as its underlying premise of sacrificing the olds for the sake of the economy is more slowly diffusing across conservative media. My expectation: in 2 weeks Trump cites the enhanced death toll as the reason he regrettably can't alter the CDC recommendations, based on expert advice, though economic pressure is building to resume production and states with low infection rates for the time being are exploring how they might do so.

Beware of hashtags during this time and search them before circulating them as they can be easily hijacked and repurposed. Also note that forwards you receive on FB and/or Whatsapp with claims about the virus or at home treatments if you get sick are likely misinformation and should be deleted rather than forwarded. Sites like FactCheck.org are attempting to stay on top of these messages and usually will have some reference to them which you can link and send back to whomever sent the messages to you. Encourage the sender to send the Fact Check to everyone they sent the message to in order to stem the tide of misinformation.

Stay safe on these internets folks.

 

[Jesus X]

View: https://twitter.com/business/status/1241812970549755905?s=20

it is probably going to be higher than that if I know 10 people 7 of us don't have jobs right now. im laid off for at least two weeks I'm on call but that could last months and like 75 percent of the people in my industry haven't been working since like march 10th

 

[Jesus X]

These are the top messages circulating and trending today in conservative and liberal circles.

Conservative:

1) China engaging in disinfo.
2) US found by Johns Hopkins study to be most prepared
3) Returning to work in 2 weeks necessary

Liberal:

1) Virus worsening and death toll increasing.
2) Stimulus bill inadequate due to corporate favorable language.
3) Trump wants to reopen in 2 weeks against medical advice.

Things to note about each of these stories:

The focus on China, what they're doing, what they did, and what conspiracies they're suggesting is being heavily amplified in conservative news circles even though those stories are not circulating in China itself and are mostly confined to English language press. As Wuhan resumes production there is a sense of bitterness that the origin point of the crisis is able to economically restart while the rest of the world waits.

The Johns Hopkins study, it should be noted, is based on capacity of public and private infrastructure as compared to other nations and was a computer simulation of what would happen in the event of a coronavirus outbreak. Thereafter, nations were given a score. This story is being amplified usually as a means of tamping down criticisms that the Trump administration didn't act quickly enough, although the study says nothing about actual actions taken and only speaks to theoretical preparedness. You can read more about it here: Pandemic simulation exercise spotlights massive preparedness gap

The virus is indeed worsening and mortality is increasing, but the prominence of death and infection toll numbers in certain media suggests an effort to give cover to state and local leaders implementing or enforcing shutdowns, even though they are unpopular. Some governors and mayors of large urban centers are preparing to add police power to enforcing stay at home directives on the basis of these numbers (See e.g. Chicago). This week is when cases are projected to spike substantially.

The stimulus bill circulating through Congress is being painted as inadequate for not addressing families and individuals and prioritizing corporate relief. In reality, there will need to be multiple stimulus packages over the next several months, so getting one done to keep firms solvent first to continue to pay workers before moving to extensive direct payment schemes mostly represents a philosophical difference. There is fear that without assurances corporations will trim their workforces anyway so Dems are pushing for 90% retention of workforce as a requirement for corps to receive funds. Repubs generally say business owners need discretion to do what they feel is in the best interest of their companies, even if it means layoffs, which would then transfer employees to government direct payments via unemployment and benefits spending as needed.

Regarding 2 weeks, Conservative sources have emphasized that it might be a worthwhile sacrifice while liberal sources have painted it as unrealistic and a sign of Trump allegedly being delusional. In reality, 2 weeks means little. Trump said he was open to reassessing in 15 days and didn't pledge anything. Texas Lt. Gov. Patrick has notably emerged saying he'd die for his country to produce again and Trump of course tweeted that we "can't let the cure be worse than the disease." It should be noted that states would still have the discretion to keep lockdown policies in place even if the President directed CDC to amend its recommendations. The 2 week narrative is leading to hysteria across liberal social media even as its underlying premise of sacrificing the olds for the sake of the economy is more slowly diffusing across conservative media. My expectation: in 2 weeks Trump cites the enhanced death toll as the reason he regrettably can't alter the CDC recommendations, based on expert advice, though economic pressure is building to resume production and states with low infection rates for the time being are exploring how they might do so.

Beware of hashtags during this time and search them before circulating them as they can be easily hijacked and repurposed. Also note that forwards you receive on FB and/or Whatsapp with claims about the virus or at home treatments if you get sick are likely misinformation and should be deleted rather than forwarded. Sites like FactCheck.org are attempting to stay on top of these messages and usually will have some reference to them which you can link and send back to whomever sent the messages to you. Encourage the sender to send the Fact Check to everyone they sent the message to in order to stem the tide of misinformation.

Stay safe on these internets folks.

glad wuhan will be able to restart their wet markets and gives us an even dealier virus in 2 weeks.

 

[lueVelvet]

View: https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1242518393363861507?s=20

 

[ThatOneDude]

Our county just got issued a shelter in place order until March 31st....fishing better be fucking essential, it is gathering food.

 

[Lukewarm Carl]

Conor for PM


View: https://www.instagram.com/tv/B-Hpy8_JCVU/?igshid=nnc3kuvzomlt

When he's not busy raping and assaulting people he's a good bloke.

 

[ThatOneDude]

Went fishing on lunch, almost got eaten by a raft of fire ants, fucking cock suckers.

 

[Jesus X]

Our county just got issued a shelter in place order until March 31st....fishing better be fucking essential, it is gathering food.

they are still allowing us to fish in L.B but if they close down the area by the queen mary we can't fish,if shit hit the fan im wondering if sea lions and seals are edible I could easily hunt one of those and they would have a lot of meat and maybe lard inside them.

 

[ThatOneDude]

they are still allowing us to fish in L.B but if they close down the area by the queen mary we can't fish,if shit hit the fan im wondering if sea lions and seals are edible I could easily hunt one of those and they would have a lot of meat and maybe lard inside them.

They can try to stop me from fishing. It's not going to work well though.

 

[Jesus X]

Went fishing on lunch, almost got eaten by a raft of fire ants, fucking cock suckers.

those bugs are ridiculous only other places I have seen horrific bugs is north carolina and arizona. in California worst you get is potato bugs and tarantulas.

 

[member 3289]

Went fishing on lunch, almost got eaten by a raft of fire ants, fucking cock suckers.

I wear my hiking boots when I go out to the glades for many reasons but fire ants are without a doubt the #1 reason. I kick the fuck out of as many ant mounds as possible.

I know it's not gonna do shit at the end of the day but I just wanna piss them off

 

[ThatOneDude]

I wear my hiking boots when I go out to the glades for many reasons but fire ants are without a doubt the #1 reason. I kick the fuck out of as many ant mounds as possible.

I know it's not gonna do shit at the end of the day but u just wanna piss them off

I had waders on, which would have been terrible if they started to climb up my back and then got into them.

 

[kaladin stormblessed]

 

[kaladin stormblessed]

I kick the fuck out of as many ant mounds as possible.

I know it's not gonna do shit at the end of the day but I just wanna piss them off

Correction: I thought you said you dONt want to piss them off

 

[Jesus X]

this is the Bethe Correia of dogs

 

[member 1013]

Canadians know how to do self isolation right...

They said I was essential

r u proud of me

 

[D241]

While I still feel, think, as well as hope no one here will be infected with the virus, I think more than likely just about everyone here has been affected. So even though Sparkuri is (hopefully) okay, consider this an open apology for giving him shit, poking fun at him about his early onset panic.
I still think we should try to be positive and try not to focus too much on the negative, but of course taking the needed measures of safety being paramount.
Hopefully this all passes soon and great news is on the horizon.

 

[member 3289]

Correction: I thought you said you dONt want to piss them off

No no. They're nasty cunts who have bitten the fuck out of my feet and ankles in the past when I wasn't wearing proper footwear, so when I wear impenetrable hiking boots, I want them to get mad as fuck because I know they can't do shit to me.

Icing on the cake would be if there was someone from the tri-state area a few hundred yards behind me who walks right into a pissed off ant mound.

 

[Jesus X]

Canadians know how to do self isolation right...

those cannabis stores should really be packing heat right now they are basically a pile of money being a cash only business if they operate like our dispensary which will sometimes have maybe a million dollars in cash, those colorado dispesary I heard transport more than a million bucks at a time in cash, I wouldn't even trust the armored car people right now.

 

[Jesus X]

lol I can't tell if this a meme or real or real but became a meme because of it's ridiculousness.

 

[ThatOneDude]

lol I can't tell if this a meme or real or real but became a meme because of it's ridiculousness.

I'd like to think it's real. I almost pointed their reporters here.

 

[ConorMcGregor NutHugger]

those cannabis stores should really be packing heat right now they are basically a pile of money being a cash only business if they operate like our dispensary which will sometimes have maybe a million dollars in cash, those colorado dispesary I heard transport more than a million bucks at a time in cash, I wouldn't even trust the armored car people right now.

I went over 2 weeks ago. All kinds of out of state plates. Lots of business in those places. Some of them have an armed guard or two.

 

[member 3289]

I'd like to think it's real. I almost pointed their reporters here.

I'm a registered Democrat, am politically left of center on most issues, and I don't see the big deal in calling it the Chinese virus.

It originated in China and if it weren't for Chinese people the pandemic wouldn't exist. That's not being anything but honest about the situation.

Getting upset about it would be like me getting upset when someone makes a Florida Man joke. I see it every day so I know this state is fucking nuts.

 

[lueVelvet]

I'm a registered Democrat, am politically left of center on most issues, and I don't see the big deal in calling it the Chinese virus.

It originated in China and if it weren't for Chinese people the pandemic wouldn't exist. That's not being anything but honest about the situation.

Getting upset about it would be like me getting upset when someone makes a Florida Man joke. I see it every day so I know this state is fucking nuts.

I don't disagree. I'm not really offended by it. But when other folks start using it in a way that encourages (even mildly) racist or shitty behavior, I don't see an issue with steering the vernacular away to something less provoking. With Trump's history with racism (you kind of can't deny it really) it's a hot button topic that he can avoid altogether by adjusting his vernacular. Because let's face it...do you really want to be dealing with folks calling you a racist when you should be working on helping the crisis at hand? You can say it's equally counterproductive to insist on annoying people "just because" as it is for folks to be offended in the first place, no?

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

those cannabis stores should really be packing heat right now they are basically a pile of money being a cash only business if they operate like our dispensary which will sometimes have maybe a million dollars in cash, those colorado dispesary I heard transport more than a million bucks at a time in cash, I wouldn't even trust the armored car people right now.

Not cash only here ... debt and credit cards work. I only pay cash, I don’t need an electronic record of my transactions.