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Filthy

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I can't see how we do less than 100k deaths
sadly, that seems to be the most reasonable take.

what do you think would have been the impact of 'poof' waving a magic wand and adopting the SKorea/Singapore strategy back in early February?
 

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You have any idea how much the deaths will peak in a 24-hour period here in the states? Do you think we'll suffer over 100K deaths?
I've been lucky so far in my guesswork, but I tell you the truth when I say I believe this is "crafted". The death toll, imo, is not organic, but measured, in order to anger & strike fear in citizens, so it's impossible to say how far it'll go.
I do not think we will exceed 5000 a day.
I really don't think we'll see 4000 a day.
The number of 72,000 is in my head for some reason.
But really I think this depends on the deep state's ability to manipulate public opinion.
If the public resists control, I have no doubt they'll put on the gas.
The FDA withholding treatment under the banner of "safety", even electively, tells me all I need to know.
What's gonna be more terrifying, to me, is what comes afterward.
A massive depression and government suppresion of human & individual rights.
I think violence will occur, on people considered celebrity, including newscasters.
 

Filthy

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Could you put it in layman's terms? I mean we would have to have months of 1000 deaths everyday and it seems like the biggest areas have peaked except for NYC or am I missing something? Like I said, it's confusing how you hear things are getting better then the next hour you hear the worst is yet to come...
How do you figure the biggest areas have peaked?

I think NYC is just the first to be impacted.
 

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Could you put it in layman's terms? I mean we would have to have months of 1000k deaths everyday and it seems like the biggest areas have peaked except for NYC or am I missing something
Yeah. I think we'll have a some months of deaths at a higher rate than 1000 a day.
It hasn't even begun in most places.
 

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How do you figure the biggest areas have peaked?

I think NYC is just the first to be impacted.
Well they say California has done a good job so far being pretty strict with their shelter in place orders and we haven't had tons of deaths here when the state has so much people. You don't hear much about Houston and Chicago much too. I've heard on news reports that somehow the cases in NYC have slowed a bit and it's the 2nd most populated city after Los Angeles I belive...
 

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sadly, that seems to be the most reasonable take.

what do you think would have been the impact of 'poof' waving a magic wand and adopting the SKorea/Singapore strategy back in early February?
The best intervention papers suggest...
100k in 18 months.
30k in the shorterm


So maybe that?
We are a big country with a lot of people.
Even a South Korea 0.5% death rate results in 50,000 dead if you get 10 million cases. So infect only 3% of the US and you'd get those numbers even with South Korea success on percents.
 

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Well they say California has done a good job so far being pretty strict with their shelter in place orders and we haven't had tons of deaths here when the state has so much people. You don't hear much about Houston and Chicago much too. I've heard on news reports that somehow the cases in NYC have slowed a bit and it's the 2nd most populated city after Los Angeles I belive...
Yeah California took action much earlier and stronger than everyone else. It's exceptional just as NYC is.
New Orleans is exploding, growth is still going up in Dallas and Houston.

The arguing for most of the models is about what happens when you undo the shelter in place. Some think it wont be a rush back (I don't understand how) but they are basing that on China largely. And that's proven to be really unreliable data at this time. So the question for California, who appears to have done a good job (but aren't testing much!) is now what? You start to slowly undo the restrictions and see if the health care system can keep up. But it'll be tough.
 

Filthy

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Yeah California took action much earlier and stronger than everyone else. It's exceptional just as NYC is.
New Orleans is exploding, growth is still going up in Dallas and Houston.

The arguing for most of the models is about what happens when you undo the shelter in place. Some think it wont be a rush back (I don't understand how) but they are basing that on China largely. And that's proven to be really unreliable data at this time. So the question for California, who appears to have done a good job (but aren't testing much!) is now what? You start to slowly undo the restrictions and see if the health care system can keep up. But it'll be tough.
I understand the challenge with that idea is that unless you have serological testing and asymptomatic testing, you're just pushing the bubble out a little bit.
 
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6-10 million in the foreseeable future.
Shits sad

Not being glib but how many will die of the flu over the same time frame?

200,000-500,000?

I honestly don’t know so I’m asking


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200,000-500,000
Depending on the year, that's the estimate yes.


Shits sad
Yeah it is. Wait till this stuff takes off in the developing world.
At a 1% death rate, you need 600 million infections to kill 6 million. the death rate is a moving target and has a lot of variables that will change by country with age and demographics, but even 1% is probably fair Guess at this point. We've seen as good as 0.5 and as 7.5 outside of China.

500 million were infected by Spanish flu give or take. That was the third of the world.


We have better understanding now and can give global help to each other, but I don't consider this entirely unlikely, especially since there are so many more people in the world now.
You only need to infect 7% of the world to get that number with the current understanding in death rate
 
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Depending on the year, that's the estimate yes.




Yeah it is. Wait till this stuff takes off in the developing world.
At a 1% death rate, you need 600 million infections to kill 6 million. the death rate is a moving target and has a lot of variables that will change by country with age and demographics, but even 1% is probably fair Guess at this point. We've seen as good as 0.5 and as 7.5 outside of China.

500 million were infected by Spanish flu give or take. That was the third of the world.


We have better understanding now and can give global help to each other, but I don't consider this entirely unlikely, especially since there are so many more people in the world now.
You only need to infect 7% of the world to get that number with the current understanding in death rate
Seriously tho am I a good guesser or what