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jason73

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I doubt time will give us elements to change our minds. at least I know pretty well what I'm talking about and the pattern has been well documented for 20 years at least. developing countries are controlled by global financial elites; no one is plotting anything against the status quo.

Brazilian neoconservatives simply import and parrot the exact same discourse from American neoconservatives. it doesn't make sense in local context, Bozo is just taking advantage of the current crisis to advance his pro-guns agenda.
pretty much all countries are using this to advance agendas. governments never let a crisis go to waste
 

regular john

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pretty much all countries are using this to advance agendas. governments never let a crisis go to waste
that’s a cool line to be repeating but this one time most public officials are more perplexed in front of the shitstorm than strategically planning something in secret.

For example Brazilian Ministry of Economy stated in early march “With 5 billions we annihilate the coronavirus”; government has already spent at least 300 billions. he was obviously underselling it to appease the market but none of these guys wanted to be spending on public health the money that would’ve been securing liquidity of their investments. it’s a nightmare for them.

of course, you give them a rotten lemon, they’ll try to do some lemonade. What they’re really gonna do is after things are close to normal they’ll use what happened as an excuse to cut public investment and dismantle social policy in all areas. “We spent too much on the corona, now we have to cut expenses in public health, education, security, infrastructure, cut public servants’ wages, cut labour rights, so we can recover “

but they’ll never cut public debts interests rolling which is what guarantees liquidity of their fake money.
 

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Bolsonaro rallies with supporters amid virus surge

President Jair Bolsonaro has hit the streets for a rally with his supporters, ditching his face mask and breaking social distancing measures even as coronavirus cases surged in Brazil.

The president arrived at the rally outside the presidential palace in Brasilia in a white surgical mask, but soon took it off to greet the cheering crowd, shake hands and embrace supporters.

The rally came as Brazil emerged as a new flashpoint in the pandemic.

With nearly 350,000 confirmed cases, Brazil now has the second-biggest caseload in the world, after the United States. It has registered more than 22,000 deaths.

Bolsonaro has famously compared the virus to a "little flu" and argues that stay-at-home measures are unnecessarily hurting the economy.

 

regular john

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What about arming themselves against all the criminals in Brazil?
it would be just about the most illogical crime policy. You wanna end violence by having people carry guns and react to robberies starting western style shootouts in urban environments.

if anything gun policy flex should be employed after providing minimal sanitary, housing, health and education conditions to the poor. Give these kids who become criminals at least a chance to engage in regular citizenship before you encourage “good citizens” to kill them in broad daylight.
 

ThatOneDude

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it would be just about the most illogical crime policy. You wanna end violence by having people carry guns and react to robberies starting western style shootouts in urban environments.

if anything gun policy flex should be employed after providing minimal sanitary, housing, health and education conditions to the poor. Give these kids who become criminals at least a chance to engage in regular citizenship before you encourage “good citizens” to kill them in broad daylight.
Why does arming law abiding citizens end up in big western style shoot outs? You don't think the criminals might second guess trying to rob someone they know is probably armed?
 

jason73

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damn you bolsonaro.you are giving people too many rights and a chance to protect themselves from crime and tyranny
 

ThatOneDude

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damn you bolsonaro.you are giving people too many rights and a chance to protect themselves from crime and tyranny
You can't have people protecting themselves, think of the criminals who might die instead of law abiding citizens. It'd be terrible, criminals must be protected.
 

regular john

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damn you bolsonaro.you are giving people too many rights and a chance to protect themselves from crime and tyranny
interesting how you never address anything more in-depth that is posted about policy/politics, you're just spamming gifs and parroting catchphrases like "the right to bear arms", "protect against tyranny" without providing context or slightly specifying what you're blabbering about. what tyranny citizens have to protect against?
 

regular john

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Why does arming law abiding citizens end up in big western style shoot outs? You don't think the criminals might second guess trying to rob someone they know is probably armed?
You can't have people protecting themselves, think of the criminals who might die instead of law abiding citizens. It'd be terrible, criminals must be protected.
you're not putting any real thought into it, you're just focused on defending pro-gun ideology that was built in your developed, rich country and antagonizing the sheer thought of considering it might not apply to an undeveloped, poor country that you know nothing about. antagonizing someone from that very country who has real knowledge about the subject without providing no real insight, just parroting catchphrases like your buddy.
 

ThatOneDude

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you're not putting any real thought into it, you're just focused on defending pro-gun ideology that was built in your developed, rich country and antagonizing the sheer thought of considering it might not apply to an undeveloped, poor country that you know nothing about. antagonizing someone from that very country who has real knowledge about the subject without providing no real insight, just parroting catchphrases like your buddy.
I'm having a discussion, I'm sorry you feel like someone with opposing views is antagonistic for expressing those views that you disagree with. There are multiple ways of life on this earth, most are wrong, but there are multiple ways to live.
 

regular john

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I'm having a discussion, I'm sorry you feel like someone with opposing views is antagonistic for expressing those views that you disagree with. There are multiple ways of life on this earth, most are wrong, but there are multiple ways to live.
after a couple of initial exchanges, if you don’t elaborate and just keep responding deeper analysis with one line catchphrases you’re not really having a discussion. You’re just shouting stuff from one side without taking into account what was said to you, like you expect the other side to engage in the shouting.

I know you like pro gun policy, you know I don’t. if you just keep repeating “the right to bear arms”, “protect against tyranny”, “citizens this, criminals that”, then we’re not going anywhere.

since I first talked to you guys I completely changed my tone and framing of pro gun discourse out of respect for opposing views even though deep inside I believe it doesn’t make any sense. now I’m long past the stage where we shout manifest from opposing sides of the room.
 

ThatOneDude

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after a couple of initial exchanges, if you don’t elaborate and just keep responding deeper analysis with one line catchphrases you’re not really having a discussion. You’re just shouting stuff from one side without taking into account what was said to you, like you expect the other side to engage in the shouting.

I know you like pro gun policy, you know I don’t. if you just keep repeating “the right to bear arms”, “protect against tyranny”, “citizens this, criminals that”, then we’re not going anywhere.

since I first talked to you guys I completely changed my tone and framing of pro gun discourse out of respect for opposing views even though deep inside I believe it doesn’t make any sense. now I’m long past the stage where we shout manifest from opposing sides of the room.
I never said "the right to bear arms" please stop trying to put words in my mouth in an attempt to make everything fit your narrative.
 

regular john

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Is that because you're using specifically the term "president"? Because there have been much worse democratically elected leaders.
yes. not that I have anyone specific in mind but I was being as restricting as I could. most of Europe is parliamentary, Japan as well, that doesn't leave too many alternatives. I don't remember what system is more common in Middle East and Africa. the point is you have to be searching among mass murders and people that were convicted of genocide to find decent opponents for that title against Bozo.
 

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yes. not that I have anyone specific in mind but I was being as restricting as I could. most of Europe is parliamentary, Japan as well, that doesn't leave too many alternatives. I don't remember what system is more common in Middle East and Africa. the point is you have to be searching among mass murders and people that were convicted of genocide to find decent opponents for that title against Bozo.

You mean leftists/socialists leaders? FACT



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regular john

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To be fair, Hitler didnt technically win a democratic election, neither did Stalin. Mussolini definitely did though and WW2 Italy was just a shade worse than 2020 Brazil.
I thought Hitler wasn't a president technically as well. after quick research I'm not sure what system they had at that time. I thought Hitler, Mussolini, Franco and all that scum were all prime ministers technically that's where my original quote came from. if I'm wrong then Bozo will have to fight for a spot among the top guys but this kind of people are his historical company.
 

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I thought Hitler wasn't a president technically as well. after quick research I'm not sure what system they had at that time. I thought Hitler, Mussolini, Franco and all that scum were all prime ministers technically that's where my original quote came from. if I'm wrong then Bozo will have to fight for a spot among the top guys but this kind of people are his historical company.

They are getting you on a technicality.

And tbf they are right.

But your guy seems to be mussolini level at this stage.
 

regular john

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They are getting you on a technicality.

And tbf they are right.

But your guy seems to be mussolini level at this stage.
it kind of proves the point when you have to say "...but Hitler was worse!"

for all the stuff I have posted about Bozo I believe I make an awfully poor job at portraying him. if I'd done it right I don't think there would be anyone defending him. if I thought that some tmmac'er is a real bolsominion at heart I wouldn't respect them.
 

jason73

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I thought Hitler wasn't a president technically as well. after quick research I'm not sure what system they had at that time. I thought Hitler, Mussolini, Franco and all that scum were all prime ministers technically that's where my original quote came from. if I'm wrong then Bozo will have to fight for a spot among the top guys but this kind of people are his historical company.
dont you think you are being a little dramatic there comparing bolonaro to stalin ,musilini and franco? how many million people has bolsonaro killed? how many wars has brazil been involved in under his power? i get it that you dont like the guy but be real bro.he is hardly on par with stalin and hitler