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BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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bad news first and then end on a positive note? Hit me with it.

While I generally know the basic story of Nero, my history knowledge of the world 2000 years ago is likely lacking, so feel free to enlighten me.
Changed my mind on delivery.

Caesar came at the end of the Republic, not Nero. The good news is, America isn't at Caesar yet. It's more like you're at the Gracchi brothers. The bad news is that America is probably only a couple of elections away from electing their Caesar. The optimistic ending would be to be more wary of the person who claims to be Trump's opposite. At this point we largely know what Trump is, a blustery moron, but the person who rides in promising to write his wrongs will more than likely to be the real problem. As has been said, "History rarely repeats, but it often rhymes."
 

Grateful Dude

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Changed my mind on delivery.

Caesar came at the end of the Republic, not Nero. The good news is, America isn't at Caesar yet. It's more like you're at the Gracchi brothers. The bad news is that America is probably only a couple of elections away from electing their Caesar. The optimistic ending would be to be more wary of the person who claims to be Trump's opposite. At this point we largely know what Trump is, a blustery moron, but the person who rides in promising to write his wrongs will more than likely to be the real problem. As has been said, "History rarely repeats, but it often rhymes."
I took his reference to Nero to mean that he was an absent and ineffectual leader during a time of catastrophe, but ultimately would have wanted to take credit for rebuilding Rome and MRGA (making Rome great again).
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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I took his reference to Nero to mean that he was an absent and ineffectual leader during a time of catastrophe, but ultimately would have wanted to take credit for rebuilding Rome and MRGA (making Rome great again).
Oh, I'm aware. But Rome burned (literally and figuratively) a bunch of times. To me it makes more sense to go with an examply that's a little less on the nose, but actually helpful going forward.
 

MartyLife

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Yea well... i saw that too but there’s nothing on actual number that states how many people of certain race are killed by their own, by group.

so far, your source is generalized one and is as good as mine.

but IF you do find one, I bet what I’m saying is true, and that’ll be my source as well... let me know~
 

Freeloading Rusty

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Jan 11, 2016
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Beat the 1918 pandemic, beat the Great Depression, and beat the ‘68 & ‘92 race riots. Highest unemployment in American history. Largest bail outs in US history.

#MAGA
 

tang

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Oct 21, 2015
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It went from all Asians across America to Koreans in one neighbourhood in LA.
just an example
you're right on asian on asian murder rate but it's an inconclusive data

super generalized

ethnic groups in Asians are lot different from whites or blacks, way more verse
 

Freeloading Rusty

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Jan 11, 2016
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just an example
you're right on asian on asian murder rate but it's an inconclusive data

super generalized

ethnic groups in Asians are lot different from whites or blacks, way more verse
Ok... everyone should just take your lack of stats and anecdotal evidence as proof over official crime stats and long establish patterns.
 

tang

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Oct 21, 2015
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Ok... everyone should just take your lack of stats and anecdotal evidence as proof over official crime stats and long establish patterns.
i don't care how people take it

but they should consider that if a japanese guy was killed by a filipino guy, it's equivalent to being killed by a black, white, hispanic since japanese and the filipinos live in a totally different community.

these stats are generalized
 

nuraknu

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Jul 20, 2016
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i don't care how people take it

but they should consider that if a japanese guy was killed by a filipino guy, it's equivalent to being killed by a black, white, hispanic since japanese and the filipinos live in a totally different community.

these stats are generalized
I am a mix of European/Ashkinazi Jew and Italian, and I can tell you that a Jew killing a Jew feels different than an Italian killing a Jew, and vice versa. But we are all considered white in the stats. Lumping Asians together seems similar to that to me. If it offends you, please know that it offends me too as well as many other people every time they have to fill out a form. Our categories are determined by whatever the current political agendas are, and only in rare cases are we asked to provide further information about heritage. I can also tell you from growing up in Brooklyn that there are probably Haitians and Jamaicans that feel similarly.

Actually, this year's census broke down the Asian category more than other categories got broken down, but I don't know how pervasive that is for other types of forms and criminal justice records.

Here is the census breakdown:

Years ago, my heritage was broken down a bit and separated out on a lot of forms. Then they took us off and we all used to check "other" because we weren't sure what to do. Now they're addressing that by specifying that we should consider ourselves white. It's all just about current politics, and all forms of racism (or attempts at genuine positive activism I guess) built into that.

Also, I'm guessing a lot of the crime statistics are based on how an officer fills out a form based only on someone's appearance, but I'm not sure.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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Jan 11, 2016
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i don't care how people take it

but they should consider that if a japanese guy was killed by a filipino guy, it's equivalent to being killed by a black, white, hispanic since japanese and the filipinos live in a totally different community.

these stats are generalized
Just like if a Russian guy is killed by an Irish guy.

Feel free to find some actual stats to back up your claims Koreans are the only outliers.