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Shinkicker

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Lol

7-8K die a day
every day

wear a mask bro

A very large percentage of those daily numbers involving a covid test were very near the end already as we all know
An even greater percentage of people committing suicide right now were eventually going to do it anyway as we all well know.


Disclaimer: I'm not being serious. Just making a point of how dumb that sounds. Everyone is eventually going to die.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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Oh shit.....


Don't lose the mask just yet.

There are two reasons for this. The first, buried on page 48 of Tuesday’s FDA briefing documents, is a caveat that will define the pivotal months ahead. While Pfizer’s drug overwhelmingly prevents people from getting sick with COVID-19, we still don’t know if it prevents them from getting infected without showing symptoms — and then silently spreading the virus to others.
I'm increasingly disenchanted by the vaccine and processes surrounding it.
 

Shinkicker

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Sure did. We discussed it at the time if memory serves.
It really got me in my feels.

He is an experienced ICU doctor in the field for years. The number of people he is watching die is tearing him apart. He's not alone. I'd wager most all ICU doctors are feeling this way. That impacts me more than any excess death numbers.

Personally, I believe those numbers are going to get even worse in the next couple of months.
 

Filthy

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I'm saying that the data point in question is suspect at best and used as a catch all when people are looking for deaths.

What you're saying is only relevant if they're doing autopsies on all excess deaths and then going back and correcting the data. But we aren't seeing that, we're seeing excess deaths being used as a catch all to make the pandemic seem worse than it is. That's not me saying the pandemic isn't bad, that's not me saying that no excess deaths are covid, that's not me saying "covid deaths are over reported" but its absolutely dishonest for people to keep bringing up excess deaths when they in fact have no idea if the deaths have anything to do with covid, outside of being side effects of it.
you're mischaracterizing how a death is attributed to COVID, and you're ignoring that data point that says that no matter how they count it, it's being under-counted.
 

Filthy

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I was hoping to see Dr Kory and Ivermectin all over the news and people everywhere demanding an answer as to why doctors can't use it.

I'm on that bandwagon!
i've been really cautious in my support of it, but the data keeps rolling in...
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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you're mischaracterizing how a death is attributed to COVID, and you're ignoring that data point that says that no matter how they count it, it's being under-counted.
False on both counts. Don't put words in my mouth
 
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Well this is scary, my county has roughly 875,000 people and 5 ICU beds free as of Monday.
My friend is an EM doc in Arlington. he said he hasn't had anywhere to transfer anyone same day for at least 3 weeks. He says it's regularly taking about 50 to 60 hours to get somebody out of his emergency department if they need to be sent out.
During this period a lot of the online graphs showed open beds, but he's been pointing out that it just isn't true. It doesn't matter what they say for the number of beds if you don't have the staff and other apparatuses and if there are 10 people waiting for that one bed
 

ThatOneDude

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My friend is an EM doc in Arlington. he said he hasn't had anywhere to transfer anyone same day for at least 3 weeks. He says it's regularly taking about 50 to 60 hours to get somebody out of his emergency department if they need to be sent out.
During this period a lot of the online graphs showed open beds, but he's been pointing out that it just isn't true. It doesn't matter what they say for the number of beds if you don't have the staff and other apparatuses and if there are 10 people waiting for that one bed
Yea, this is no bueno.
You should probably doctor over here and whip these people into shape.
 

Filthy

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@Splinty wanted me to make sure that you know that everyone who has died in TMMAC Sea Org was going to die anyway
 

ThatOneDude

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Filthy

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I'm saying that the data point in question is suspect at best and used as a catch all when people are looking for deaths.

What you're saying is only relevant if they're doing autopsies on all excess deaths and then going back and correcting the data. But we aren't seeing that, we're seeing excess deaths being used as a catch all to make the pandemic seem worse than it is. That's not me saying the pandemic isn't bad, that's not me saying that no excess deaths are covid, that's not me saying "covid deaths are over reported" but its absolutely dishonest for people to keep bringing up excess deaths when they in fact have no idea if the deaths have anything to do with covid, outside of being side effects of it.
you don't have to do an autoposy to determine if someone died from suicide or the onset of COVID.

We have every rational idea what people died from when they're counted as a COVID death. You're setting an irrelevant and unachievable bar for the 'goodness' of the data needed to determine the degree to which we are under-counting COVID deaths. This idea that you must have an autopsy to classify a death accurately would be without precedent in understanding communicable disease or aggregate mortality.