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Shinkicker

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Jan 30, 2016
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The warrant specifies an IP address. So this should be pretty straightforward. What I don't see is that they took that IP address and subpoenaed user information from the internet service provider. so without that piece historically other cases have been dismissed because an IP address is not an identity without server logs from the ISP.

Every bit of it feels like a government overreach and as such I really hope it blows up in their face
This guy said the search warrant was shit.

 

BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
Jul 22, 2015
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That's basically the entire population no?
That's 125 000 people who will be treated of a total population of 35 million. This is an almost useless drop in the bucket, but remember I did say almost. Something is certainly better than nothing.
 

ThatOneDude

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That's 125 000 people who will be treated of a total population of 35 million. This is an almost useless drop in the bucket, but remember I did say almost. Something is certainly better than nothing.
Wow, I'm amazed there are that many Canadians to be honest.
 

Sheepdog

Protecting America from excessive stool loitering
Dec 1, 2015
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Australia picked the dud vaccine. We stocked up on AstraZeneca rather than Moderna or Pfizer, although we've got enough Pfizer for the really old cunts at least.

So our public vaccine campaign is genuinely going to have to be this:

 

Filthy

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Jun 28, 2016
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Lol

7-8K die a day
every day
COVID deaths are in excess of the normal daily average deaths, and they only account for people who tested positive for COVID and had symptoms of COVID which contributed to their death. Actual deaths as calculated by excess mortality is at least 20% higher than confirmed deaths.

A very large percentage of those daily numbers involving a covid test were very near the end already as we all know
you are confusing pre-existing conditions, which have been diagnosed in 60% of Americans, with hospice care.
your smarter than that.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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COVID deaths are in excess of the normal daily average deaths, and they only account for people who tested positive for COVID and had symptoms of COVID which contributed to their death. Actual deaths as calculated by excess mortality is at least 20% higher than confirmed deaths.



you are confusing pre-existing conditions, which have been diagnosed in 60% of Americans, with hospice care.
your smarter than that.
Excess deaths are a junk stat as has been explained to you several times throughout the pandemic. Please stop invoking it, it's extremely dishonest.
 

Filthy

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Jun 28, 2016
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Excess deaths are a junk stat as has been explained to you several times throughout the pandemic. Please stop invoking it, it's extremely dishonest.
it's a useful tool for comparing data trends and aggregating impacts. Explain to me why it's junk, I don't recall.
 

Sheepdog

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Dec 1, 2015
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Excess deaths are a junk stat as has been explained to you several times throughout the pandemic. Please stop invoking it, it's extremely dishonest.
I doubt you have the money or the physical appearance to pull it off, but at the very least you and Gina Carano are intellectual soulmates. You should hit her up on Instagram.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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it's a useful tool for comparing data trends and aggregating impacts. Explain to me why it's junk, I don't recall.
They take all deaths in excess of expectations. So in B.C. this year there was an August article that they had 200 something covid deaths this year. They had almost 300 excess overdose deaths over previous years, because of how excess deaths are recorded even though we know the cause of death wasn't covid, they are still excess deaths. So people like yourself will go "Well, sure there's 200 covid deaths but excess deaths are double that so it stands to reason that.." but really the excess deaths have nothing to do with covid aside from them being deaths of despair.

As far as I could find looking into it excess deaths were a concept come up with the record flu deaths. Health Canada takes deaths from 6 months of warm weather, subtracts that from the deaths of the 6 months of cold weather and that leftover number (excess deaths) is the flu death rate. They just completely ignore that during the winter deaths by car accident, heart attack and suicide all spike.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
Jul 22, 2015
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I doubt you have the money or the physical appearance to pull it off, but at the very least you and Gina Carano are intellectual soulmates. You should hit her up on Instagram.
Petty insults but no counter points? I'm shocked.
 

Filthy

Iowa Wrestling Champion
Jun 28, 2016
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They take all deaths in excess of expectations. So in B.C. this year there was an August article that they had 200 something covid deaths this year. They had almost 300 excess overdose deaths over previous years, because of how excess deaths are recorded even though we know the cause of death wasn't covid, they are still excess deaths. So people like yourself will go "Well, sure there's 200 covid deaths but excess deaths are double that so it stands to reason that.." but really the excess deaths have nothing to do with covid aside from them being deaths of despair.

As far as I could find looking into it excess deaths were a concept come up with the record flu deaths. Health Canada takes deaths from 6 months of warm weather, subtracts that from the deaths of the 6 months of cold weather and that leftover number (excess deaths) is the flu death rate. They just completely ignore that during the winter deaths by car accident, heart attack and suicide all spike.
so you're saying that you shouldn't use data outside of its intended purpose?

excess mortality is an indicator of the aggregate effect of the pandemic, and a way to gauge accuracy of COVID death reporting.
you can't say "COVID deaths are under-counted" until you can explain excess mortality - at a time when fewer people are at risk for the significant traditional seasonal deaths (flu, car accidents, etc) and at higher risk for others (suicide). But we can look at the historical magnitude of suicides and make the determination that in order for COVID deaths to be 'under-counted' other seasonal deaths would have to be outperforming historical averages by 300%. That 300% is a made up number, but those other deaths would have to be dramatically higher in order to explain where all the dead people came from, if not from COVID
 

BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
Jul 22, 2015
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so you're saying that you shouldn't use data outside of its intended purpose?

excess mortality is an indicator of the aggregate effect of the pandemic, and a way to gauge accuracy of COVID death reporting.
you can't say "COVID deaths are under-counted" until you can explain excess mortality - at a time when fewer people are at risk for the significant traditional seasonal deaths (flu, car accidents, etc) and at higher risk for others (suicide). But we can look at the historical magnitude of suicides and make the determination that in order for COVID deaths to be 'under-counted' other seasonal deaths would have to be outperforming historical averages by 300%. That 300% is a made up number, but those other deaths would have to be dramatically higher in order to explain where all the dead people came from, if not from COVID
I'm saying that the data point in question is suspect at best and used as a catch all when people are looking for deaths.

What you're saying is only relevant if they're doing autopsies on all excess deaths and then going back and correcting the data. But we aren't seeing that, we're seeing excess deaths being used as a catch all to make the pandemic seem worse than it is. That's not me saying the pandemic isn't bad, that's not me saying that no excess deaths are covid, that's not me saying "covid deaths are over reported" but its absolutely dishonest for people to keep bringing up excess deaths when they in fact have no idea if the deaths have anything to do with covid, outside of being side effects of it.
 

Shinkicker

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Jan 30, 2016
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Oh shit.....


Don't lose the mask just yet.

There are two reasons for this. The first, buried on page 48 of Tuesday’s FDA briefing documents, is a caveat that will define the pivotal months ahead. While Pfizer’s drug overwhelmingly prevents people from getting sick with COVID-19, we still don’t know if it prevents them from getting infected without showing symptoms — and then silently spreading the virus to others.
 

Shinkicker

For what it's worth
Jan 30, 2016
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They take all deaths in excess of expectations. So in B.C. this year there was an August article that they had 200 something covid deaths this year. They had almost 300 excess overdose deaths over previous years, because of how excess deaths are recorded even though we know the cause of death wasn't covid, they are still excess deaths. So people like yourself will go "Well, sure there's 200 covid deaths but excess deaths are double that so it stands to reason that.." but really the excess deaths have nothing to do with covid aside from them being deaths of despair.

As far as I could find looking into it excess deaths were a concept come up with the record flu deaths. Health Canada takes deaths from 6 months of warm weather, subtracts that from the deaths of the 6 months of cold weather and that leftover number (excess deaths) is the flu death rate. They just completely ignore that during the winter deaths by car accident, heart attack and suicide all spike.
Did you watch the video of Dr Kory?