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BeardOfKnowledge

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Weirddddddddd right? Who would think social distancing and mask wearing would help limit that sort of thing......
It's not really limiting it, it's just not being reported. As an example:

The Ministry of Health says that there were 1,076 new cases of the disease caused by the novel coronavirus confirmed on Thursday, as the province’s labs processed 62,012 specimens. The ministry says that the positivity rate was 2.2 per cent overall
Ontario only gives tests to people with symptoms. It stands to reason that the 60k people who have "flu like symptoms", but not covid probably have the flu.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Flu number are always estimates, this year it's effectively going uncounted.

The "It's also a respiratory disease therefore..." doesn't hold up to any sort of criticism for a variety of reasons that should at this point be pretty obvious. Flu data is overall, junk data. That's why the flu has "disappeared" this year. It hasn't actually, it's just doing it's thing.
 
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Weirddddddddd right? Who would think social distancing and mask wearing would help limit that sort of thing......

We are testing at same or higher rates for flu and have been for months. No change in surveillance.
I've seen one case.

Normally at this point it's dozens and dozens.

We test for both sars2 and flu a/b concurrently. So it's not a matter of assumption for one confused as the other.

I got almost no flu here.
 

ThatOneDude

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We are testing at same or higher rates for flu and have been for months. No change in surveillance.
I've seen one case.

Normally at this point it's dozens and dozens.

We test for both sars2 and flu a/b concurrently. So it's not a matter of assumption for one confused as the other.

I got almost no flu here.
That's some of the broest science I've heard bruh. Doesn't make sense.
 

Filthy

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Jun 28, 2016
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how compromised is that WHO team that's "investigating" the outbreak in Wuhan?

why, none other than the completely ethically-compromised propagandist Peter Daszak is running point.
of course, CNN cites him as the source for how this absolutely could not of come from the lab where his research was funded and his career was built.

According to Peter, this lab where they were doing Gain of Function research in to SARS was VERY CLOSE to achieving their goal and saving humanity from this outbreak - but it could not in any way be associated or linked to the outbreak. And we're all shocked to find out that this WHO team has now isolated many forms of this virus in Wuhan in December, now that they're counting partial genetic matches.

someone help me not be disgusted, ashamed, a little fearful of this theatrical rendition of a scientific investigation.

In a paper published in the journal Nature Medicine last March, leading infectious disease specialists in the United States, United Kingdom and Australia said it was "improbable" that the novel coronavirus had emerged from a lab, citing comparative analysis of genomic data.

"Our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus," the paper said.
Peter Daszak, a member of the WHO team currently in Wuhan and president of EcoHealth Alliance, an environmental health non-profit, said he was confident in the lab's safety protocols.

"I know that lab really well," said Daszak, who has worked closely with virologist Shi in the past.
"It is a good virology lab that was doing good work that got close to finding what the next SARS-related coronavirus would be. But it didn't find it as far as I know. But you know, unfortunately, it maybe got so close that people now ironically start to blame it."

Some have speculated that the WHO team may be limited in what they can see during inspections in China -- particularly as Beijing has begun to push alternative, often completely unfounded, theories about the origin of the virus -- but Daszak said he hoped his personal relationships with the lab leadership will mean they get everything they need.
"We've already spoken with (Shi) Zhengli, and she's open about these things. I'm hoping that we'll have the same level of openness and transparency," he said.


However, Daszak did express concern that the wider investigation may be too late to find important information in Wuhan, where the initial outbreak of the virus occurred and it is believed to have originated from.

"We could have been here a year ago doing good work," Daszak said, though he added "we're getting good access ... all the time, we're digging in to find out more and more information about each possible pathway."

that is a man lying to himself and the world.
 

ThatOneDude

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how compromised is that WHO team that's "investigating" the outbreak in Wuhan?

why, none other than the completely ethically-compromised propagandist Peter Daszak is running point.
of course, CNN cites him as the source for how this absolutely could not of come from the lab where his research was funded and his career was built.

According to Peter, this lab where they were doing Gain of Function research in to SARS was VERY CLOSE to achieving their goal and saving humanity from this outbreak - but it could not in any way be associated or linked to the outbreak. And we're all shocked to find out that this WHO team has now isolated many forms of this virus in Wuhan in December, now that they're counting partial genetic matches.

someone help me not be disgusted, ashamed, a little fearful of this theatrical rendition of a scientific investigation.




that is a man lying to himself and the world.
Fite him
 
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I'm sure this makes me an asshole but the thought of Sex Chicken @Sex Chicken not getting vaccinated until 2026 has me rolling around on the floor laughing.
 

Grateful Dude

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We are testing at same or higher rates for flu and have been for months. No change in surveillance.
I've seen one case.

Normally at this point it's dozens and dozens.

We test for both sars2 and flu a/b concurrently. So it's not a matter of assumption for one confused as the other.

I got almost no flu here.
One of my mountain biking buddies is a family practice doctor, and he told me the same as what you said - he hasn’t had a single flu case this year. FWIW he said he normally sees about 20 patients a day, and this time of the year it’s usually way more of those visits being flu cases.