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Sheepdog

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This is a very good vaccine

'Approximately 20 percent of participants were 65 years and over, and approximately 60 percent had comorbidities associated with an increased risk for progression of severe COVID-19, such as diabetes, severe obesity or cardiac disease'

100% effectiveness against severe disease with that cohort is encouraging.

Still, all of these vaccines are going to live and die by their ability to combat variants and we already know that AstraZeneca is struggling against the Saffer strain.
 
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'Approximately 20 percent of participants were 65 years and over, and approximately 60 percent had comorbidities associated with an increased risk for progression of severe COVID-19, such as diabetes, severe obesity or cardiac disease'

100% effectiveness against severe disease with that cohort is encouraging.

Still, all of these vaccines are going to live and die by their ability to combat variants and we already know that AstraZeneca is struggling against the Saffer strain.
I've read that the study that showed only ~20% efficacy against B.1.351 had questionable data and that another study was needed, but it may have been the BBC doing their best Charlie Weidman impression for their homemade vaccine.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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'Approximately 20 percent of participants were 65 years and over, and approximately 60 percent had comorbidities associated with an increased risk for progression of severe COVID-19, such as diabetes, severe obesity or cardiac disease'

100% effectiveness against severe disease with that cohort is encouraging.

Still, all of these vaccines are going to live and die by their ability to combat variants and we already know that AstraZeneca is struggling against the Saffer strain.
Are the new variants showing to be more deadly? I thought it was showing the opposite.
 

Sheepdog

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I've read that the study that showed only ~20% efficacy against B.1.351 had questionable data and that another study was needed, but it may have been the BBC doing their best Charlie Weidman impression for their homemade vaccine.
They are all pretty fucked to varying degrees vs the Saffer virus including Pfizer and Moderna. Johnson and Johnson is somewhere around 40% effective, and I think that's the best of the lot.

The Ruskies claim their vaccine works against the Brazil and Saffer variants, but there is no data.

Apparently it's pretty easy to modify the vaccines, but it will be a logistical and thus economic nightmare to have to keep re-vaccinating the globe to fight variants.
 

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Some shit went down in England last night. I met a chick from bristol when I was about 12 on holiday. We used to call each other for a bit afterwards, but I decided it would never work.

 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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The UK variant is significantly more deadly.

The others are less clear, but they spread more easily. I haven't seen anything that says they are less deadly.
You have a source for that? I'm not saying it's wrong, but it's not what officials here are telling is. We're being told it spreads more easily but isn't more deadly.

Edit: Just did some reading on recent reports. I'm not sure that the increased risk (less than twice as likely to kill you as the other strains) doesn't strike me as something to lose a lot of sleep over.
 
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Sheepdog

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You have a source for that? I'm not saying it's wrong, but it's not what officials here are telling is. We're being told it spreads more easily but isn't more deadly.
Just type it into Google and you'll see a shitload of articles about it.

You must be reading fake news if you've heard it isn't more deadly.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Just type it into Google and you'll see a shitload of articles about it.

You must be reading fake news if you've heard it isn't more deadly.
Read the above edited post.

And yes, our politicians and health officials have done nothing but lie to us for a year.
 
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They are all pretty fucked to varying degrees vs the Saffer virus including Pfizer and Moderna. Johnson and Johnson is somewhere around 40% effective, and I think that's the best of the lot.
Novavax is 48% and J&J is 57% in South Africa. It's possible that number includes cases that aren't the B.1.351 variant, but the trials were recent and after the variant had emerged.
 

Sheepdog

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You have a source for that? I'm not saying it's wrong, but it's not what officials here are telling is. We're being told it spreads more easily but isn't more deadly.

Edit: Just did some reading on recent reports. I'm not sure that the increased risk (less than twice as likely to kill you as the other strains) doesn't strike me as something to lose a lot of sleep over.
I never said it was. I didn't bring up the deadliness until you asked.

It's the lack of effectiveness of the vaccines that's the main issue, not the increased mortality - unless of course some new variant emerges that is much deadlier.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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I never said it was. I didn't bring up the deadliness until you asked.

It's the lack of effectiveness of the vaccines that's the main issue, not the increased mortality - unless of course some new variant emerges that is much deadlier.
When you used the phrasing that the new variants are "significantly more deadly" I got the impression you were more concerned than you apparently are. My mistake.
 

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The majority of kids in FL are still taking classes online. It's 65% in my county and similar numbers in other counties.
Here kids haven't had in-person school for a year now with instances of kids killing themselves that I've posted on here. I can't imagine losing your entire Senior year of high school and missing out on everything...
 
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Here kids haven't had in-person school for a year now with instances of kids killing themselves that I've posted on here. I can't imagine losing your entire Senior year of high school and missing out on everything...
It definitely sucks, but what the guy said in this tweet was misleading. By and large, kids are not in school here. I happened to be driving through a school zone for an elementary school in Parkland today and it was a ghost town even though school had officially just let out at 2 pm.

The kids that are going to school are mostly in low-income areas where parents can't afford child care, sadly.