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Sheepdog

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You mean like Stalin did? Or like Mao? Or like Pol Pot?

Is it easier or harder to starve people if you have the full power of The State behind you?

The power to do good is the power to do evil.
Old mate Mao didn't deliberately starve his own people, mete. The cunts deliberately starving them were Eisenhower and JFK.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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You mean like Stalin did? Or like Mao? Or like Pol Pot?
Yes.

Is it easier or harder to starve people if you have the full power of The State behind you?
In the true free market that you're proposing there's no difference.

We're also having a discussion about the real world in which you aren't allowed to discriminate for a variety of reasons.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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I could of course try to explain some basic history to a halfwit, but that would make me a halfwit for engaging in something futile.

But as a Canuck you should be proud you told JFK to get fucked with his starvation campaign.
Poor Mao. There was absolutely nothing he could have done to prevent the starvation....
 

Sheepdog

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Poor Mao. There was absolutely nothing he could have done to prevent the starvation....
I said 'deliberately'. The guy was a cunt, but at least a mostly rational cunt. He made ruthless and incorrect decisions that resulted in starvation but there's absolutely no evidence he intended to starve masses of his own people. Lots of leaders make ruthless decisions - that's my point.

Unlike Mao, the intent of Eisenhower and Kennedy was very clear - to deliberately starve Chinese citizens by cutting off food supply to them. They then used the starvation they were contributing to (no, it obviously wasn't all on them) in order to destabilize the communist regime and blackmail it on foreign policy issues. This was rational, but also 'evil'. The food blockade included significant threats and intimidation aimed at Canada and other countries who tried to send food (for profit, of course).

And the point of me pointing this out to old mate wasn't to say Mao was a top bloke and Kennedy was 'evil', the point was to say 'hey, stop thinking like retarded child'. If Mao is 'evil' for recklessly causing starvation without regard for human life, then what are Kennedy and Eisenhower for deliberately causing it?
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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I said 'deliberately'. The guy was a cunt, but at least a mostly rational cunt. He made ruthless and incorrect decisions that resulted in starvation but there's absolutely no evidence he intended to starve masses of his own people. Lots of leaders make ruthless decisions - that's my point.

Unlike Mao, the intent of Eisenhower and Kennedy was very clear - to deliberately starve Chinese citizens by cutting off food supply to them. They then used the starvation they were contributing to (no, it obviously wasn't all on them) in order to destabilize the communist regime and blackmail it on foreign policy issues. This was rational, but also 'evil'. The food blockade included significant threats and intimidation aimed at Canada and other countries who tried to send food (for profit, of course).

And the point of me pointing this out to old mate wasn't to say Mao was a top bloke and Kennedy was 'evil', the point was to say 'hey, stop thinking like retarded child'. If Mao is 'evil' for recklessly causing starvation without regard for human life, then what are Kennedy and Eisenhower for deliberately causing it?
You can't actually be this fucking gullible.
 

Filthy

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Yes.



In the true free market that you're proposing there's no difference.

We're also having a discussion about the real world in which you aren't allowed to discriminate for a variety of reasons.
except the market pressures that drive people to act in their own best interest. Show me an example of a 'free market' economy where a group of people were starved in to submission - I'm pretty sure I can keep up the 3-1 rate examples. :)

in the real world, the only thing that keeps people from discriminating is the perception that it's not in their best interest.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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except the market pressures that drive people to act in their own best interest. Show me an example of a 'free market' economy where a group of people were starved in to submission - I'm pretty sure I can keep up the 3-1 rate examples. :)

in the real world, the only thing that keeps people from discriminating is the perception that it's not in their best interest.
Free markets don't exist.

You're also doing that thing you love to do where you're ignoring that elections are the free market.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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but "Real Scotsman" fallacies do.
It's not a fallacy, its a fact. I say that as a free market fan. There arent any, all that exists is bastardized versions. In those bastardized versions you dont have to look very far to find atrocities.
 

Filthy

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It's not a fallacy, its a fact. I say that as a free market fan. There arent any, all that exists is bastardized versions. In those bastardized versions you dont have to look very far to find atrocities.
repeating a fallacy doesn't make it less fallacious.

you're just ducking the point that was made - that free association >> authoritarian dictate because in the former there's no power to corrupt or be abused.
 

Filthy

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Old mate Mao didn't deliberately starve his own people, mete. The cunts deliberately starving them were Eisenhower and JFK.
Mao and the CCP were in a situation of limited resources of their own creation, and directed those limited resources to their political allies.

it wasn't Good Communists that were starving.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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repeating a fallacy doesn't make it less fallacious.
You can feel free to list me all of these free market havens. Tell you what, just give me 5.

you're just ducking the point that was made - that free association >> authoritarian dictate because in the former there's no power to corrupt or be abused.
Yes, there is. You're just shifting who is able to abuse said power.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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Hey @Lars

Stopped at Walmart today for some Ben&Jerry's ice cream because I'm bougie (it was on sale, I'm also poor. I'm bougie-poor) and I noticed they had the non-essential goods roped off. Among these goods are masks. You're a smart cookie, can you explain to me how one wears a mandatory mask when they aren't available for purchase?
 

gangsterkathryn

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Oct 20, 2015
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Hey @Lars

Stopped at Walmart today for some Ben&Jerry's ice cream because I'm bougie (it was on sale, I'm also poor. I'm bougie-poor) and I noticed they had the non-essential goods roped off. Among these goods are masks. You're a smart cookie, can you explain to me how one wears a mandatory mask when they aren't available for purchase?
What flavor?
 

Thuglife13

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Hey @Lars

Stopped at Walmart today for some Ben&Jerry's ice cream because I'm bougie (it was on sale, I'm also poor.
You had me at Ben&Jerry's. What's your favorite flavor my guy? Mine is "The Tonight Dough" followed by Gimme S'more! and recently tried Cannoli which was really damn good...

If you have Safeway in Canadia I get them on sale sometimes 2 for $5 on their $5 Fridays...





 
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Hey @Lars

Stopped at Walmart today for some Ben&Jerry's ice cream because I'm bougie (it was on sale, I'm also poor. I'm bougie-poor) and I noticed they had the non-essential goods roped off. Among these goods are masks. You're a smart cookie, can you explain to me how one wears a mandatory mask when they aren't available for purchase?
Nope
You had me at Ben&Jerry's. What's your favorite flavor my guy? Mine is "The Tonight Dough" followed by Gimme S'more! and recently tried Cannoli which was really damn good...

If you have Safeway in Canadia I get them on sale sometimes 2 for $5 on their $5 Fridays...





Safeway is here in the west and it sux
 

gangsterkathryn

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You had me at Ben&Jerry's. What's your favorite flavor my guy? Mine is "The Tonight Dough" followed by Gimme S'more! and recently tried Cannoli which was really damn good...

If you have Safeway in Canadia I get them on sale sometimes 2 for $5 on their $5 Fridays...





This is my favorite flavor. There’s a regular one called “Milk & Cookies” that’s good, but this one is so much better.
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gangsterkathryn

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"Light" ice cream no thanks lol. I want extra triple double fat ice cream haha. Tillamook is also really good and it has more cream than regular ice cream just throwing it out there.
It doesn’t taste light. I promise. I can only eat one scoop anyway.