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ThatOneDude

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Dick Niaz said:
You are likely correct but I’m curious what the response would be to valid evidence. I imagine 90+% of people would not be swayed from their current opinion regardless of what any investigation shows. People will latch onto the first political posturing or media sound bite which fits their narrative.
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It's tricky that way
That is why the first story or narrative is such a powerful thing to control

I think your 90% is about spot on
 
Wild

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I truly can't believe there's that many here that either really think Biden legitimately won, or are trolling. Or even worse, know in their gut the election was rigged, but don't care so they can say their team won. What happened to wanting what is best for America?
 
Filthy

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I truly can't believe there's that many here that either really think Biden legitimately won, or are trolling. Or even worse, know in their gut the election was rigged, but don't care so they can say their team won. What happened to wanting what is best for America?
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Joe Biden is a scumbag, and he legitimately won the election.

come at me.
 
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Filthy said:
Joe Biden is a scumbag, and he legitimately won the election.

come at me.
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I can respect the first part of that sentence. But the second? No way. Five swing states didn't stop counting all at the same time, in the middle of the night w/ Trump leading each of them, and suddenly America wakes up to Biden winning them all 5 hours later. I'm just not buying it. There's too much evidence they cheated. Suitcases of ballots rolled out from under tables in GA, machines being accessed by Dominion & foreign entities via the internet (yes, there's proof this happened), warehouses full of ballots w/ Biden's name on them (yes, there's proof of this too), the same ballots being adjudicated multiple times (proof of this too), etc, etc. He didn't legitimately win shit.

But hey, I'm loving $3.19 gas here in Indiana, no longer being energy independent, pipelines being shut down, Ford taking $900m and thousands of jobs to Mexico, illegals crossing by the tens of thousands & being dropped off across the country for us to pay for, Covid fear mongering still being pushed down America's throats, China owning our ass, etc. It's awesome.
 
BeardOfKnowledge

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Filthy said:
yes. what I'm saying is it matters how many of the RNC-1 have LP/Const/Green/etc vs how many of the DNC-1 have LP/Const/Green/etc
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When the rubber meets the road most voters will recognize how similar the DNC and GOP are. Particularly when they're confronted with "Do you really want open borders and legal crack?!?!?!?!"

Proportional voting for senate/congress would be a great idea though.
 
Filthy

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I can respect the first part of that sentence. But the second? No way. Five swing states didn't stop counting all at the same time, in the middle of the night w/ Trump leading each of them, and suddenly America wakes up to Biden winning them all 5 hours later. I'm just not buying it. There's too much evidence they cheated. Suitcases of ballots rolled out from under tables in GA, machines being accessed by Dominion & foreign entities via the internet (yes, there's proof this happened), warehouses full of ballots w/ Biden's name on them (yes, there's proof of this too), the same ballots being adjudicated multiple times (proof of this too), etc, etc. He didn't legitimately win shit.

But hey, I'm loving $3.19 gas here in Indiana, no longer being energy independent, pipelines being shut down, Ford taking $900m and thousands of jobs to Mexico, illegals crossing by the tens of thousands & being dropped off across the country for us to pay for, Covid fear mongering still being pushed down America's throats, China owning our ass, etc. It's awesome.
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Pres Trump had nothing to do with the brief period of energy independence the US experienced in 2019.

None.

there's no evidence of any of the claims you're making in the first paragraph.

None.
 
TheFifthScallop

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Wild said:
I truly can't believe there's that many here that either really think Biden legitimately won, or are trolling. Or even worse, know in their gut the election was rigged, but don't care so they can say their team won. What happened to wanting what is best for America?
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I honestly can’t tell if you’re trolling.

Joe Biden is a horrible choice, but this idea that he stole the election is absolutely crazy. You’re so hung up on “your team” that you can’t accept what happened. A shitty candidate beat a person who a majority of the country wanted out.
 
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Thefifthscallop said:
I honestly can’t tell if you’re trolling.

Joe Biden is a horrible choice, but this idea that he stole the election is absolutely crazy. You’re so hung up on “your team” that you can’t accept what happened. A shorty candidate beat a person who a majority of the country wanted out.
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HE didn't steal it. But people way above Joe did. Absolutely not trolling. About 25 million overly sensitive radical nut jobs with deep rooted mommy & daddy issues, wanted Trump out. About another 30 million who always vote Democrat voted left down the ticket, like they always do. And I think that's about how many votes Biden actually got. 55 million. And to everyone that wanted orange man bad out so desperately, hope it was worth the extra $6-8k we're all going to pay annually for higher gas prices, taking care of illegals, higher prescription prices, higher everything. Amazing people were willing to lose $24-32k over the next few years because a guy w/ an ego hurt feels with some tweets. Personally, I'd rather have that money in my pocket, have a more secure southern border, have someone committed to addressing child trafficking, someone working with corporations to keep their business in America, etc. But wtf do I know.
 
Filthy

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HE didn't steal it. But people way above Joe did. Absolutely not trolling. About 25 million overly sensitive radical nut jobs with deep rooted mommy & daddy issues, wanted Trump out. About another 30 million who always vote Democrat voted left down the ticket, like they always do. And I think that's about how many votes Biden actually got. 55 million. And to everyone that wanted orange man bad out so desperately, hope it was worth the extra $6-8k we're all going to pay annually for higher gas prices, taking care of illegals, higher prescription prices, higher everything. Amazing people were willing to lose $24-32k over the next few years because a guy w/ an ego hurt feels with some tweets. Personally, I'd rather have that money in my pocket, have a more secure southern border, have someone committed to addressing child trafficking, someone working with corporations to keep their business in America, etc. But wtf do I know.
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where's your evidence of 20M manufactured votes?

EDIT: should also point out that reads like every Hillary supporter forum post in 2017.
 
TheFifthScallop

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Wild said:
HE didn't steal it. But people way above Joe did. Absolutely not trolling. About 25 million overly sensitive radical nut jobs with deep rooted mommy & daddy issues, wanted Trump out. About another 30 million who always vote Democrat voted left down the ticket, like they always do. And I think that's about how many votes Biden actually got. 55 million. And to everyone that wanted orange man bad out so desperately, hope it was worth the extra $6-8k we're all going to pay annually for higher gas prices, taking care of illegals, higher prescription prices, higher everything. Amazing people were willing to lose $24-32k over the next few years because a guy w/ an ego hurt feels with some tweets. Personally, I'd rather have that money in my pocket, have a more secure southern border, have someone committed to addressing child trafficking, someone working with corporations to keep their business in America, etc. But wtf do I know.
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Where is the evidence? There doesn’t seem to be any.
 
BeardOfKnowledge

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Thefifthscallop said:
Joe Biden is a horrible choice, but this idea that he stole the election is absolutely crazy.
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I want to be 100% clear when I say this. I don't think Trump won the election.

But the idea that the election was stolen isn't a far stretch. Now, people will argue that it wasn't literally "stolen", and that's true. There was no manufactured ballots. But it's naive for people to pretend that the electoral process wasn't completely undermined in the lead up to the 2020 election.
 
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JorgeMasvidalsBeard said:
I want to be 100% clear when I say this. I don't think Trump won the election.

But the idea that the election was stolen isn't a far stretch. Now, people will argue that it wasn't literally "stolen", and that's true. There was no manufactured ballots. But it's naive for people to pretend that the electoral process wasn't completely undermined in the lead up to the 2020 election.
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i agree with other forms of stealing

the democratic nomination was "stolen" from bernie in various ways, one of which was the way the moderators frame their questions

and many elections are "stolen" or rigged due to gerrymandering

the american political system blows lol. so corrupt
 
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Filthy said:
where's your evidence of 20M manufactured votes?
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C'mon man, you know you don't really care about evidence. People have posted multiple links to the audits & investigations done by cyber experts in the swing states (the evidence that the Supreme Court declined to hear due to "lack of standing"), but you and others laugh it off.

And when the evidence comes out of this Maricopa Audit, ya'll will do the same thing. I can hear it now "those results can't be trusted", "we're supposed believe that shit 8 months later?", "who was conducting the audit, MAGAtards?", etc. Nothing will satisfy those who wanted Trump out, regardless of how overwhelmingly irrefutable the evidence is. You know it, I know it. So all I can do is wait and see what happens. What happens if Arizona's state legislature ends up decertifying the results because of fraud found in this audit? And they conduct the same forensic audit in MI, WI, GA (which is on deck), NV, and PA? And they also find evidence of fraud in those states? That's a rhetorical question. Maybe there's nothing there. But maybe there's everything. All I know is, he who has nothing to hide, hides nothing...and they Democrat party is trying everything in their power to stop (hide) these audits. even threatening to have the DOJ step in.
 
Filthy

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Wild said:
C'mon man, you know you don't really care about evidence. People have posted multiple links to the audits & investigations done by cyber experts in the swing states (the evidence that the Supreme Court declined to hear due to "lack of standing"), but you and others laugh it off.

And when the evidence comes out of this Maricopa Audit, ya'll will do the same thing. I can hear it now "those results can't be trusted", "we're supposed believe that shit 8 months later?", "who was conducting the audit, MAGAtards?", etc. Nothing will satisfy those who wanted Trump out, regardless of how overwhelmingly irrefutable the evidence is. You know it, I know it. So all I can do is wait and see what happens. What happens if Arizona's state legislature ends up decertifying the results because of fraud found in this audit? And they conduct the same forensic audit in MI, WI, GA (which is on deck), NV, and PA? And they also find evidence of fraud in those states? That's a rhetorical question. Maybe there's nothing there. But maybe there's everything. All I know is, he who has nothing to hide, hides nothing...and they Democrat party is trying everything in their power to stop (hide) these audits. even threatening to have the DOJ step in.
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what would convince you that the election was legit?
 
Filthy

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you may find this hard to believe, but the 'evidence' posted so far is bullshit and easily explained without invoking a giant cabal of bad actors working in concert
 
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