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Gono beat Hardy
Jun 19, 2016
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Aaaaaaand....... that's about as good a counter as you're capable of coming up with.

What do you think is going to happen? Lay out a rational, reality-based scenario for us, explaining where I went wrong, with no gifs or memes? Oops...... never, ever gonna happen. Prove me wrong. Spoiler - you won't. ?

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I'll get right on it as soon as you tell me why you are so heavily invested in American politics to the point you spend hours on end every day pushing the liberal agenda on two separate MMA forums, I'd also like to know what company cuts your checks for you to spend all this time shilling ...if it pays good enough I might jump ship and join you...after all "everyone has a price"!

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kaladin stormblessed

Nala fanboy
Apr 24, 2017
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is that even possible?

even if Biden gets impeached, wouldn't it go down the chain, with Kamala, then whatever cabinet members? and it'll be very unlikely that all of em fucks up so that next person they put in power is someone from the other party?
vice president than speaker of the house iirc
 

Speaker to Animals

encephalopathetic
May 16, 2021
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And here in Michigan...

In a highly anticipated report released Wednesday, the Republican-led Michigan Senate Oversight Committee rebutted former President Donald Trump's voter fraud claims, debunking allegations of malfeasance in the state's election last fall and affirming that Joe Biden was victorious.

The report is the product of an eight-month inquiry and concludes there was no basis or evidence to support the Trump campaign's repeated claims that the election results failed to reflect the will of the voters.
 

FINGERS

Banned
Nov 14, 2019
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49 pages of absolute bollocks.

But still probably Trumps greatest achievement as el Presidentè
 

tang

too high to rigg
Oct 21, 2015
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No.

For a start, for it to work, they would actually have to find (and prove) very significant fraud in half a dozen states.

They have found zero fraud in the nation.



Well, the problem is, you are advancing a reality-based argument here.

MAGA types are proud to reject reality. In fact, you will be purged from the Republican Party if you continue publicly urging them to accept reality. Unfortunately, that's just the simple truth at this point.

More specifically, nobody actually knows exactly what would happen in that scenerio, because they've never had a President who was enough of a piece of shit that he put his own selfishness above the peaceful, lawful transfer of power and the continuation of democracy in America.

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but it seems like you were using that example as your argument.

Trump side: we just want to make sure that it was a fair and legitimate election

Other side: FUCK NO! THEY DON'T WANT THAT SHIT! THEY JUST WANT TO OVERTURN THE ELECTION RESULTS TO HAVE TRUMP BACK IN POWER!!

you know?
 

FINGERS

Banned
Nov 14, 2019
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but it seems like you were using that example as your argument.

Trump side: we just want to make sure that it was a fair and legitimate election

Other side: FUCK NO! THEY DON'T WANT THAT SHIT! THEY JUST WANT TO OVERTURN THE ELECTION RESULTS TO HAVE TRUMP BACK IN POWER!!

you know?

How many judges will it take for people to realise trump lost?
The answer is none btw
 

John Lee Pettimore

Further south than you
May 18, 2021
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but it seems like you were using that example as your argument.

Trump side: we just want to make sure that it was a fair and legitimate election

Other side: FUCK NO! THEY DON'T WANT THAT SHIT! THEY JUST WANT TO OVERTURN THE ELECTION RESULTS TO HAVE TRUMP BACK IN POWER!!

you know?
Well the thing is........ there are checks and audits already built into the system. Everything gets checked and confirmed regardless. For a start, a result for a state or county that falls within a certain margin of error (generally half a percent, I believe) triggers an automatic full recount. This wasn't the first close election, others have been MUCH closer (and much shadier in terms of the outcome - Kennedy in '60 and Dubya in 2000 being the two notable examples).

This isn't an audit. They aren't looking for truth. If it's a real audit and not an anti-democracy illegal power grab, then there's no audio recording of the President pressuring the Georgia Secretary of State to "find 11,000 votes" so that he could be declared the winner of the state. He's on tape telling the Georgia SoS that "I won Georgia by hundreds of thousands of votes" and that is simply the delusional tantrum of a spoiled child who has never, ever been told "No" and then been unable to buy and/or bullshit his way into getting what he wants anyway.

The thing is - it literally is just lies and delusion, all the way down. They are NOT saying "we just want to make sure it was fair and legitimate". They are simply crying and throwing tantrums until they get the outcome they want. Which isn't going to happen, because their grievances are not reality-based - simple as that. The "Stop the Steal!" crowd fall into one of two categories - cynical deception, or genuine delusion. If what they allege was true, then their lawyers would be arguing it in court. Instead, the lawyers are explicitly saying in court that they are NOT alleging massive fraud. Because if you're a lawyer, there are professional consequences for lying to a judge and wasting the court's time, and they don't want to face that.

But what they can do, is throw enough bullshit into the air that genuine people like you can sincerely ask "but aren't they just asking for a free and fair election, what's wrong with that?"

Well unfortunately, the reality is that it's more than half a year later, there's no fraud, and the MAGA crowd is now reduced to screaming about Italian satellites and Chinese bamboo fibres.

Always remember that the same faked "massive fraud" ballots that were apparently changed to rob Trump of victory....... were NOT changed to prevent the GOP from picking up seats in the House. The same piece of paper.

Long post, but the reality is, the only fraud here is coming from the cunts who are preying on vulnerable people to get them to reach into their pockets and send money to these grifters.

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Speaker to Animals

encephalopathetic
May 16, 2021
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Long post, but the reality is, the only fraud here is coming from the cunts who are preying on vulnerable people to get them to reach into their pockets and send money to these grifters.

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He's selling them on the dream that one day soon he'll be back in the WH, when he knows he never will.
That's a grifter: making you pay for someone else's dream.
 

John Lee Pettimore

Further south than you
May 18, 2021
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He's selling them on the dream that one day soon he'll be back in the WH, when he knows he never will.
That's a grifter: making you pay for someone else's dream.
Yep.

And it IS grift. It is not based in reality at all - it is a money-grab that also has the benefit of letting him avoid publicly admitting defeat. Which he has spent 40 years in the public eye screaming - and showing - that he will never, ever admit to being anything less than the ultimate winner and the best at everything. No matter what. There is no possibility that he could ever have lost, under any circumstances, and responded with anything other than "massive fraud! They stole it from me, I won by a landslide!"

This is not normal, it is not reasonable, and it is not funny. It is the most serious assault on American democracy in a century and a half, and it is a LOT closer to doing irreparable damage than a lot of people think. It is an unprecedented situation that America finds itself in because of the Republican Party's swift descent into anti-democracy personality cult extremism - it is NOT a matter of "both sides are the same!".

Which is why the "both sides" guys never, ever back their shit up with anything other than their feelings, and it's why they instantly get shitty and throw tantrums and make personal attacks when they are asked to justify that claim. Because in reality, they can't. And that frustrates them, because nobody likes the Dems or the woke twitter warriors that they pander to (while changing nothing fundamental.) But the simple fact is, the Dems are currently a party that is willing to participate in a democracy. The Republicans are not. For all the (many and significant) flaws and failings that the Democrats have, that is the difference between the two parties at this point. That is just a simple fact. This is a crisis point in American history because of these poisonous cunts and their avalanche of mind-rotting conspiracy garbage.

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Speaker to Animals

encephalopathetic
May 16, 2021
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Yep.

And it IS grift. It is not based in reality at all - it is a money-grab that also has the benefit of letting him avoid publicly admitting defeat. Which he has spent 40 years in the public eye screaming - and showing - that he will never, ever admit to being anything less than the ultimate winner and the best at everything. No matter what. There is no possibility that he could ever have lost, under any circumstances, and responded with anything other than "massive fraud! They stole it from me, I won by a landslide!"

This is not normal, it is not reasonable, and it is not funny. It is the most serious assault on American democracy in a century and a half, and it is a LOT closer to doing irreparable damage than a lot of people think. It is an unprecedented situation that America finds itself in because of the Republican Party's swift descent into anti-democracy personality cult extremism - it is NOT a matter of "both sides are the same!".

Which is why the "both sides" guys never, ever back their shit up with anything other than their feelings, and it's why they instantly get shitty and throw tantrums and make personal attacks when they are asked to justify that claim. Because in reality, they can't. And that frustrates them, because nobody likes the Dems or the woke twitter warriors that they pander to (while changing nothing fundamental.) But the simple fact is, the Dems are currently a party that is willing to participate in a democracy. The Republicans are not. This is a crisis point in American history because of these poisonous cunts and their avalanche of mind-rotting conspiracy garbage.

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It is pretty funny that the "fuck your feelings, snowflake" crowd, that was so sure Trump would win, are now sulking in their melting snowflake feelings.
What's good for the goose and all that
 

BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
Jul 22, 2015
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Would you be more comfortable if I just responded "top post mate, agree with everything" to anything you posted in a political thread? Is that more along the lines of what you require on this discussion board? Seems so.

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You tagged me into a conversation that doesn't interest me. Now please, stop trolling.
 

John Lee Pettimore

Further south than you
May 18, 2021
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And here in Michigan...

In a highly anticipated report released Wednesday, the Republican-led Michigan Senate Oversight Committee rebutted former President Donald Trump's voter fraud claims, debunking allegations of malfeasance in the state's election last fall and affirming that Joe Biden was victorious.

The report is the product of an eight-month inquiry and concludes there was no basis or evidence to support the Trump campaign's repeated claims that the election results failed to reflect the will of the voters.
What a surprise, right?

Remember 2017, when Hillary spent eight months wasting everyone's time with these stupid lies, just because she's that much of a poor loser and a selfish piece of shit?

And then the Democrat establishment fell in line, promoted it right alongside her, and purged anyone in the party who refused to admit that she lost?

And then her supporters flew to Washington from all over the country, and violently attacked the seat of government rather than accept that they live in a democracy? While dishonest clowns like BeardOfKnowledge @JorgeMasvidalsBeard made excuses for them and their anti-democracy bullshit for months on end?

Remember that?

Neither do I.

Both sides act the same, though.

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